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This is a discussion on Catch can 101 within the F150 Ecoboost Performance forums, part of the F150 Ecoboost Garage category; So has anyone figured out why some trucks have a lot of blowby and others do not? Is this simply differences in the piston ring ...

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    So has anyone figured out why some trucks have a lot of blowby and others do not? Is this simply differences in the piston ring seals? Or is it a sign of premature wear on some trucks?

    I think most agree that short trips in cold or humid climates produces the most amount of junk in the CC.
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    Just wanted to share this installation video with everyone on an installation of the BRAND NEW

    UPR 17-19 F150 Ecoboost Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can with ECSS™ - Electronic Clean Side Separator



    This has been developed to eliminate the CEL=Check Engine Light and give you the best protection at the exit and entrance of the PCV system.

    Enjoy the Video and we're now offering this kit for all 2015-2019 F150's and we have the Patent Pending UPR ECSS available as a separate option
    for all the 2015-2019 F150 trucks as well.

    The ECSS is a brand new option for the F150 Ecoboost Trucks and SUV's.

    I added this here to share the UPR Plug n Play Catch Can as an OEM or better option that protects the clean side and the dirty side. This
    design has a Utility patent-pending to protect the function of the ECSS as maintains the correct airflow and eliminates pressure the drops
    that cause the Variable Pressure Sensor voltage to go out of range and trip the CEL - Check Engine Light.

    The Ecoboost Engine always have to protect both the clean side and the dirty side of the PCV system.


    Keeping it simple for the Clean and Dirty side of the PCV.

    1.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can Function
    This can gets mounted in the engine bay and is routed between the PCV valve and the intake manifold vacuum and is the main point of entry for oil
    ingestion into the Ecoboost intake manifold, runners and combustion chambers. We keep it in a location where it will stay hot so it will reduce the
    amount of condensation that gets collected reducing the need to drain it more frequently.

    2.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Cath Can WOT Function - (WOT) = Wide Open Throttle
    This is the second vacuum source that comes off the UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can. The main function of this line is to eliminate BOOST
    pressure from entering your crankcase and pressurizing it at WOT. The WOT function comes into play when you go into any BOOST and your primary
    check valve on the clean line from the catch can that connects to the vacuum from the intake manifold has positive pressure. When BOOST activates
    the primary check valve to close the PCV no longer has anywhere to get vacuum from or release the positive pressure from the BOOST/Blow-by.

    The WOT line now goes into full effect by providing a secondary vacuum source to the PCV system. This is why we call it a UPR (DUAL Valve) Catch
    Can. By providing this additional vacuum source we effectively reroute the PCV flow into the suction side of the intake tube before the turbo where no
    BOOST is and it only has vacuum drawing from the intake side of the turbo.

    3.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Cath Can ECSS Function - (ECSS) = Electronic Clean Side Separator
    The ECSS is for the intake/clean side of the PCV system where the fresh air is drawn into the PCV system from the driver side turbo air intake tube
    before the turbo. This is the problem side that can trip the CEL when modified if the sensor does not see the correct airflow it will go out of range
    and light up the CEL on your dash. The ECSS is Brand New system and developed exclusively by UPR to protect the clean side from spitting oil into
    the intake tube before the turbo when in boost or towing. This is a very common problem with the ecoboost and no other catch can have been able
    to address this problem correctly.

    The ECSS has a multi-stage internal design that controls oil ingestion and maintains the proper pressure at the VPS sensor effectively eliminating the
    CEL. We have worked long and hard on this system and tuned the internal design and flow path of the ECSS to function in the same range with the
    VPS sensor and keep that unsightly CEL off. We are in the process of releasing this to work with any catch can system as a stand-alone ECSS system.

    I hope this helps with the PCV function and understanding how to properly protect the Ecoboost PCV System from Oil Ingestion at BOTH sides of the PCV.

    Thank you, Joe
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    That's very cool. I have the can with the separate clean side can, and it does a pretty good job avoiding the cel. I gutted the pcv valve and after that get a code now and then that I just clear.

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    Keep up the good work @UPRjoe
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    Wanted to share exactly what the New UPR ECSS looks like and be sure you have the correct numbers for the UPR ECSS Kits.

    The UPR ECSS is the full Plug n Play™ Catch Can System and it provides the very best protection across the board and is designed
    to work seamlessly with the OEM sensors - Factory electronics. No tuning or programming required at all. This has been our biggest
    breakthrough with the Ecoboost platform and has become an integral part of all New UPR Ecoboost Catch Can Systems.

    This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1000x1000.


    These Brand New System has two Utility patents pending.

    UPR only uses OEM or better components throughout all our UPR Plug n Play™ Catch Can Systems for the Ecoboost Platform.


    2015 and newer truck Kit part numbers are listed below to make it easier when ordering.


    2015-2016 3.5 F150 = 5030-124-1-ECSS

    2015-2016 3.5 F150 = 5030-124-1-ECSS

    2017-2017 3.5 F150 = 5030-221-1-ECSS

    2018-2019 3.5 F150 = 5030-238-1-ECSS

    2015-2017 2.7 F150 = 5030-239-1-ECSS

    2018-2019 2.7 F150 = 5030-166-1-ECSS


    Thank you, Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by UPRjoe View Post
    Just wanted to share this installation video with everyone on an installation of the BRAND NEW

    UPR 17-19 F150 Ecoboost Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can with ECSS™ - Electronic Clean Side Separator



    This has been developed to eliminate the CEL=Check Engine Light and give you the best protection at the exit and entrance of the PCV system.

    Enjoy the Video and we're now offering this kit for all 2015-2019 F150's and we have the Patent Pending UPR ECSS available as a separate option
    for all the 2015-2019 F150 trucks as well.

    The ECSS is a brand new option for the F150 Ecoboost Trucks and SUV's.

    I added this here to share the UPR Plug n Play Catch Can as an OEM or better option that protects the clean side and the dirty side. This
    design has a Utility patent-pending to protect the function of the ECSS as maintains the correct airflow and eliminates pressure the drops
    that cause the Variable Pressure Sensor voltage to go out of range and trip the CEL - Check Engine Light.

    The Ecoboost Engine always have to protect both the clean side and the dirty side of the PCV system.


    Keeping it simple for the Clean and Dirty side of the PCV.

    1.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can Function
    This can gets mounted in the engine bay and is routed between the PCV valve and the intake manifold vacuum and is the main point of entry for oil
    ingestion into the Ecoboost intake manifold, runners and combustion chambers. We keep it in a location where it will stay hot so it will reduce the
    amount of condensation that gets collected reducing the need to drain it more frequently.

    2.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Cath Can WOT Function - (WOT) = Wide Open Throttle
    This is the second vacuum source that comes off the UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Catch Can. The main function of this line is to eliminate BOOST
    pressure from entering your crankcase and pressurizing it at WOT. The WOT function comes into play when you go into any BOOST and your primary
    check valve on the clean line from the catch can that connects to the vacuum from the intake manifold has positive pressure. When BOOST activates
    the primary check valve to close the PCV no longer has anywhere to get vacuum from or release the positive pressure from the BOOST/Blow-by.

    The WOT line now goes into full effect by providing a secondary vacuum source to the PCV system. This is why we call it a UPR (DUAL Valve) Catch
    Can. By providing this additional vacuum source we effectively reroute the PCV flow into the suction side of the intake tube before the turbo where no
    BOOST is and it only has vacuum drawing from the intake side of the turbo.

    3.) The UPR Plug n Play™ Dual Valve Cath Can ECSS Function - (ECSS) = Electronic Clean Side Separator
    The ECSS is for the intake/clean side of the PCV system where the fresh air is drawn into the PCV system from the driver side turbo air intake tube
    before the turbo. This is the problem side that can trip the CEL when modified if the sensor does not see the correct airflow it will go out of range
    and light up the CEL on your dash. The ECSS is Brand New system and developed exclusively by UPR to protect the clean side from spitting oil into
    the intake tube before the turbo when in boost or towing. This is a very common problem with the ecoboost and no other catch can have been able
    to address this problem correctly.

    The ECSS has a multi-stage internal design that controls oil ingestion and maintains the proper pressure at the VPS sensor effectively eliminating the
    CEL. We have worked long and hard on this system and tuned the internal design and flow path of the ECSS to function in the same range with the
    VPS sensor and keep that unsightly CEL off. We are in the process of releasing this to work with any catch can system as a stand-alone ECSS system.

    I hope this helps with the PCV function and understanding how to properly protect the Ecoboost PCV System from Oil Ingestion at BOTH sides of the PCV.

    Thank you, Joe
    Joe, I'm trying to find the part number for the Quick connect fitting you put in the intake tube around the 9 minute mark of the video. Can you help me out?

    Thanks!

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    UPR Plug n Play™ WOT installation kit / We sell that for $24.99

    It includes the following:

    1pc. UPR Rubber Grommet
    1pc. UPR Plug n Play™ Aluminum Fitting
    1pc. UPR Plug n Play™ Push Button Fitting

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    Just for your info.

    Joe

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    Wanted to share how easy it is to access the UPR Drain Valve for emptying.

    Here is a photo I just took on my 18 3.5 F150 so you can
    see how easy you can get to the UPR Catch Can to drain
    it from the front driver fender well.

    The inner fender well can just be lifted very easily for you
    to reach the drain valve with the front wheel turned all the
    way left.



    Thank you, Joe

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    UPR NEWS FLASH

    UPR Oil Catch Can Drain Line Kit for ALL Catch Can Systems with a 1/4 Inch Drain.

    Part Number: H5032-49

    Designed to work with all Catch Cans with a 1/4 Inch Drain Plug Hole.
    We've included both a 90 deg and 180 deg fitting to be able to work
    with the tightest mounting locations that require a quick bend out of
    the catch can due to limited mounting space and a straight fitting to
    be able to drop it straight down.

    Our kit only allows you to remote mount the drain valve and be able
    to empty your catch can on the fly without going under the hood or
    having to remove anything. Simply slide a bucket or drain pan under
    your car and open the drain valve and your all set.

    No cheap rubber hoses or generic hose clamps in this kit only UPR
    Nickel Fittings, UPR Chrome Drain Valve, UPR Braided Hose, with UPR
    Billet Hose Ends for a perfect no-slip fit that will last a lifetime.

    UPR Oil Catch Can Drain Line Kit

    This Catch Can Drain Line Kit includes:

    * 2pc UPR Billet Hose End Covers
    * 1pc 1/4 Turn Drain Valve with 14mm Barbed End
    * 1pc 90 Degree 14mm Barb x 1/4" Catch Can Fitting
    * 1pc 180 Degree14mm Barb x 1/4" Catch Can Fitting
    * 1pc 48" 1/2" UPR Braided Hose - 300psi Oil Resistant

    Have a great weekend, Joe

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    I cant seem to find the listed part number for the 2019's.. Is this part of the 2030-221 kit that you pm'd me about or is this a different kit or add on? Want to be sure I get the right one.

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