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    Not worth the work and money to switch from 17 to 18+ turbos. Retrofitting gen2 to gen1 is NOT something I would say most people will know how to do. Itís a lot of work and expensive, unless willing to pay someone who knows and can make all the adapters etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMB_Ryan View Post
    Not worth the work and money to switch from 17 to 18+ turbos. Retrofitting gen2 to gen1 is NOT something I would say most people will know how to do. Itís a lot of work and expensive, unless willing to pay someone who knows and can make all the adapters etc....
    The 18 turbos do give you another 4-500 rpms of usable powerband at 17 psi without overspeed and also pay big dividends if you operate at altitude. I will be testing this very thing soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattr66 View Post
    The 18 turbos do give you another 4-500 rpms of usable powerband at 17 psi without overspeed and also pay big dividends if you operate at altitude. I will be testing this very thing soon.

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    For a shops labor at one day its 1200 bucks installation probably plus displosal and new tune, oil coolant, etc. then you have to buy a oem core which is 1200-1250 shipped plus the $500 core youíll get back. $150-250 in gaskets and shipping back to ford, disposal fees, itís a ton of lot of money for 50 rwhp if swapping from 17-18 or 19.
    Think about it:
    If going updated route, thatís almost like $2500-$3000 bucks soho to nuts if you pay a shop to do the work plus parts and misc for 25-50 HP. Thatís a little high.

    Iíd rather see upgraded 2018 plus turbos with their the newly designed and way nicer compressor housings that are also already larger annnddd...... (anti-surge thatís legit and really nice....cough cough ) and perhaps a little magic sauce to the turbine wheel etc... now weíre looking at something thatís worth spending a few grand on. 50rwhp Max now ideally jumps to 150 rwhp and compare that to gen1 your up 250 rwhp.

    Just thinking out loud, but I like the update option, just not with factory guts. Get more out of the whole spending the cheddar


    PS: Iím agreeing with you, just not on oem for oem between years. Too costly for not much if doing the work yourself

    Also- perhaps you know. Is there an updated connector on 17-18 on e wastegates that doesnít plug right into the 18+ or am I mistaken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMB_Ryan View Post
    For a shops labor at one day its 1200 bucks installation probably plus displosal and new tune, oil coolant, etc. then you have to buy a oem core which is 1200-1250 shipped plus the $500 core youíll get back. $150-250 in gaskets and shipping back to ford, disposal fees, itís a ton of lot of money for 50 rwhp if swapping from 17-18 or 19.
    Think about it:
    If going updated route, thatís almost like $2500-$3000 bucks soho to nuts if you pay a shop to do the work plus parts and misc for 25-50 HP. Thatís a little high.

    Iíd rather see upgraded 2018 plus turbos with their the newly designed and way nicer compressor housings that are also already larger annnddd...... (anti-surge thatís legit and really nice....cough cough ) and perhaps a little magic sauce to the turbine wheel etc... now weíre looking at something thatís worth spending a few grand on. 50rwhp Max now ideally jumps to 150 rwhp and compare that to gen1 your up 250 rwhp.

    Just thinking out loud, but I like the update option, just not with factory guts. Get more out of the whole spending the cheddar


    PS: Iím agreeing with you, just not on oem for oem between years. Too costly for not much if doing the work yourself

    Also- perhaps you know. Is there an updated connector on 17-18 on e wastegates that doesnít plug right into the 18+ or am I mistaken?
    We have put our modified 17 turbos on an 18 raptor without issue. I will check to see if there is some new connector maybe next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattr66 View Post
    We have put our modified 17 turbos on an 18 raptor without issue. I will check to see if there is some new connector maybe next week.

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    Thank you. I can tell you that modifying and changing a 2011-2016 to a 2018-2019 is not a walk-in the park. It requires detailed knowledge of fittings, etc....and not cheap. Although really cool to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMB_Ryan View Post
    Thank you. I can tell you that modifying and changing a 2011-2016 to a 2018-2019 is not a walk-in the park. It requires detailed knowledge of fittings, etc....and not cheap. Although really cool to me
    Is this a worthwhile endeavor with GTís being available? Any advantage?

    Although I have heard GTís arenít necessarily available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mass-hole View Post
    Is this a worthwhile endeavor with GTís being available? Any advantage?

    Although I have heard GTís arenít necessarily available.
    I have gen 1 turbos with gen 2 guts in them.... Have the gt turbos become unavailable as of late?

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    I have a 18, just seems really strong compared to the 17 I drove, the 17 was equally equipped, wondering if the turbos are the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avf150 View Post
    I have a 18, just seems really strong compared to the 17 I drove, the 17 was equally equipped, wondering if the turbos are the reason.
    Same octane fuel and everything? They seem to pick up 30hp or so to the wheel just by running 93 vs 87, even stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mass-hole View Post
    Is this a worthwhile endeavor with GT’s being available? Any advantage?

    Although I have heard GT’s aren’t necessarily available.
    I'll let you know once I hit the Dyno. It's not a apples to apples since I now have the built motor in the truck, but I think we'll have some data worth looking at.

    Matt may have better comparison numbers though.

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