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    Quote Originally Posted by TCP2 View Post
    my 2016 wants one of these. Doesn't a stacked plate cooler flow better than a tube and fin? the tube and fin is most efficient at the cost of increased restrictive pressure. Each plate flows fluid from one side to the other, whereas a tube and fin is a single long tube. My understanding is the more plates it has, the lower the restriction. A long single tube is most restrictive...or am I miss-informed.
    Flow/restriction depends more on the tube sizing and internal structure than the construction style. Many stacked plate coolers use turbulated internal structures that move the fluid throughout the plate. This gets more of the fluid in contact with the surface of the plate to transfer heat, but it can also cause a restriction if the tubes are too small. Tube-and-fin coolers are typically less thermally efficient than stacked-plate-coolers, but you have more room to increase the diameter of the tubes and increase flow. Adding more plates or more tubes to either construction would theoretically reduce restriction, but the inlet and outlet will become a bottle-neck at some point.

    Hope that answers your question! Feel free to let me know if it didn't

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    Hey everybody,


    I hope you all had a great Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year, Lunar Eclipse.... It's been a while. We have an update on this transmission cooler for you! Check it out below and let us know what you think!


    Carry the Weight – Transmission Cooler R&D, Part 2: Design


    Simplicity is often the key to great engineering. The same can be said about Ford’s F-150. The F-150 is about function over frills and getting the job done. Our 2015+ Ford F-150 transmission cooler will follow the same formula. Our focus will be on one key aspect: use as much of the space behind the F-150’s grille as possible. As we saw in our first post, the stock transmission cooler only utilizes about 50% of the available space. To increase that usage to 100% without adding unnecessary complications is where we’ll get the job done, plain and simple.



    Ford was kind enough to provide us with convenient mounting points on either end of the radiator and a hard pipe to connect the outlet port on the transmission cooler to the soft line going to the radiator. Our cooler needed another hard line to travel the additional distance from the original soft line to our end tank but compared to some of our recent transmission cooler project, that was be a simple task. To continue with the theme of simplicity, our cooler will be fastened to the radiator by a straightforward set of L-brackets.


    We still need to decide whether the core will be a tube-and-fin style or bar-and-plate style, but before anything else can happen, we need to make a prototype. Before we can build a prototype, we need a 3D model to base it on.


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    Hey everybody,

    We're excited to announce that our pre-sale for this transmission cooler is live and we have our final post outlining performance and fitment testing below. Check them both out, and let us know what you think!

    Thanks,
    -Steve


    Carry the Weight — Transmission Cooler R&D, Part 3: Production


    The time had come to put our engineer’s hard work to the test, a bench test to be specific. The bench test determines if our final transmission cooler will be a stacked-plate or tube-and-fin design. Given the fact that our cooler is over double the size of the stock cooler, we’re confident that either construction will cool better, but the devil is in the details. Aside from the cooling performance of each construction method, we needed to consider the pressure drop across each. The cooling performance of the stacked-plate cooler might be better than a tube-and-fin cooler, but if the pressure drop is too high, it will all be for nothing. To settle the debate once and for all we set up our bench-test rig and got to work.

    You may be wondering why we’re bench testing the coolers instead of road testing them. Road testing coolers is great for getting real world data when you can perform it on a closed course without traffic and with perfectly consistent weather. But, since we don’t have access to a closed course for testing and we’re no good at controlling the weather, we’ve opted for bench testing. Our bench test is designed to give us an apples-to-apples comparison between all three coolers. We can control the ambient air temperature in our shop, the airflow through the cooler with our dyno fan, and maintain a consistent fluid temperature and pressure. All that data can then be easily collected by our AEM AQ1 data-logger without having to worry about other parts of the vehicle’s cooling system interfering.

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    I typically don't have issues with transmission temps but do with coolant temps, will this help is that regard?

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    So this fits the 2017 raptor 3.5 but does not fit the 2017 Non Raptor Gen2 3.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj0528 View Post
    I typically don't have issues with transmission temps but do with coolant temps, will this help is that regard?
    It may reduce coolant temps slightly due to the reduced load on the cooling system, but if you're having cooling issues, our radiator would be a better investment.

    Quote Originally Posted by gotboost150 View Post
    So this fits the 2017 raptor 3.5 but does not fit the 2017 Non Raptor Gen2 3.5?
    This will fit the non-raptor 2017 3.5L EcoBoost. It will not fit the 2018 models with the 3.5L except for the Raptor.

    Thanks!
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    Will you make a version that has the tubes flipped upwards for a regular 2015-2019 F150?
    -2016 XLT (XTR) 3.5 ecoboost supercrew 6.5' box, max tow, line-x, Bakflip MX4, Firestone ride-rite airbags, Vantech Rack, Alpine PWE-S8 Sub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCP2 View Post
    Will you make a version that has the tubes flipped upwards for a regular 2015-2019 F150?
    This cooler can be flipped on the mounts to fit either variation, so this fits 2015-2017 F-150s.

    Thanks!
    -Steve

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    perfect!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mishimoto View Post
    This cooler can be flipped on the mounts to fit either variation, so this fits 2015-2017 F-150s.

    Thanks!
    -Steve
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    -2016 XLT (XTR) 3.5 ecoboost supercrew 6.5' box, max tow, line-x, Bakflip MX4, Firestone ride-rite airbags, Vantech Rack, Alpine PWE-S8 Sub.
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