Need a tractor but can I move it?

Need a tractor but can I move it?

This is a discussion on Need a tractor but can I move it? within the F150 Ecoboost Towing forums, part of the F150 Ecoboost Forum category; Hey guys! I'm prepared to be called an idiot for even thinking about this but i'm not sure if I am.... so here I am ...

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 38
Like Tree16Likes

Thread: Need a tractor but can I move it?

  1. #1
    Ecoboost Regular SENDIT's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    194
    Member #
    46826
    Liked
    46 times

    Need a tractor but can I move it?

    Hey guys! I'm prepared to be called an idiot for even thinking about this but i'm not sure if I am.... so here I am to see what you guys think!

    My father and I are looking at getting a used tractor to maintain my grandfathers farm. We have 130 acres in southeast kansas that is primarily soy bean and grassland/lumber. We also may begin building food plots to chase big kansas whitetails.

    If we decide to go ahead and get one eventually I am trying to decide what we need and if I can even move it. The purchase decision will just fall to if the people that currently do the mowing continue doing so or retire and if we need to do dirt work on some of the ponds/roads.

    We primarily are needing it for handling loader duties, light road maintenance, and mowing. We are considering a 15' batwing mower with minimum PTO of 60hp

    All that said where we're kind of looking at not spending a ton to pretend like we are farmers we are NOT looking at a new tractor.

    I am currently looking at 1960-1970s era tractors around the size of the John Deere 2630, 3020, or 4020 although I am not brand loyal these just are common around me.

    These will sit bare between 6000 and 8000 lbs plus loader were looking at 7000-9000 lb plus or minus a few hundred.

    I have a PJ equipment trailer that weighs around 2000 lbs.

    on the top end I am confident I would be over my ratings.

    My truck is a 2011 ecoboost xlt with the tow package and 3.55 gears. I have electric trailer brake controls, timben SES on the rear axle, E-range bfg ko-2 tires, and an anderson no sway hitch I also have replaced my factory brakes with a larger aftermarket boshe setup. i believe that i am rated at either 9700 or 10300 lb from the factory. Of course If I got it i could always have my dad follow me with a smaller trailer and just take the loader off of the tractor to save 1300 lbs.

    Once I got the tractor to the farm I seldom would need to trailer it more than 50-60 miles and am more than happy to be "that guy" driving in the slow lane.

    I used to work in masonry and am used to driving with trailers up to 16,000lb albeit behind larger trucks. I have towed around 10,000lb before with this truck and it handled it with ease, i had a monitor running and everything looked good. I just want to know If this is TOO much.

    Do I need to try to find a lighter tractor that will still fit my needs or is it reasonable to think that shopping no more than 300 miles away on a well maintained truck and trailer properly secured I would be ok with an 11,000 lb trailer (up to 1300 over rating)?

    If its a bad idea I will re-evaluate I just want to know y'alls thoughts

    Heres the picture of the tractor the tenant is currently using for tillage 19,000lb (aka would probably break my truck) and my dad, trailer, and truck.

    Name:  IMG_0404.jpeg
Views: 91
Size:  4.15 MB
    Name:  IMG_7694-1.jpeg
Views: 89
Size:  4.80 MB
    2011 F-150 xlt SuperCrew 4X4 3.55

  2. #2
    Ecoboost Master Sub_Elect's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    North Dakota
    Posts
    1,050
    Member #
    748
    Liked
    583 times
    That's a big tractor!
    2013 XLT Ecoboost 4x4 6.5' Box SCrew - Tuxedo Black, Grey Interior - 3.73 Max Tow, Backup Camera, Skid Plates -2" Leveling Kit, 2" AAL, Box Side Step, Tail Gate Step

    1/2 ton Fords......doing the work of 3/4 ton Chevys since 2011!

  3. #3
    Ecoboost Pro MMCdude's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    west central Illinois
    Posts
    560
    Member #
    8345
    Liked
    328 times
    According to tractordata.com, a JD 4020 is anywhere from 8225-9560 lbs. Once you figure in any more wheel weights and any attachments, I'd think you're well into pushing the limits, but would probably be OK for an occasional tow with good trailer brakes. (I'm assuming those are 7K axles on your PJ)

    I spent many hours on a '68 4020 with Power Shift in my younger years. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
    _______________________________
    2014 F150 XLT Supercab, 3.5L EB, 3.73 axle, Max Tow Package, HD Payload Package (8200 GVWR), Kicker audio upgrade, wheel well liners, and trying to figure out how to squeeze in a CB and scanner...

  4. Remove Advertisements
    F150EcoBoost.net
    Advertisements
     

  5. #4
    Eco-Beast Chris H's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Rowlett, TX
    Posts
    2,755
    Member #
    5338
    Liked
    2511 times
    Any chance to borrow a 3/4 or 1-ton truck from a friend for a day?

    I've got a couple of buddies with 1 ton trucks and we're all comfortable loaning each other just about anything because we know how well we take care of our stuff. I never did get one of them to let me have his 1,400 hp GT500 for a few days though. Punk.
    Elmore328 likes this.
    2011 F150 Platinum screw 2WD 6.5' bed, 3.73 Max Tow pkg | Full Race FMIC | EPP catted downpipe | PowerStop Extreme | OEM Harley front end | Belltech 3/4 drop | Black Rhino Traverse 22" | built motor & EFR's coming soon...
    2018 Ford Transit XLT 12 passenger van 3.5 EB | stock for now...
    1992 Mustang 5.0 coupe bolt-on play thing.
    1964 1/2 Mustang Indy 500 Pace Car - OEM replica, collector car toy

  6. #5
    Ecoboost Regular SENDIT's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    194
    Member #
    46826
    Liked
    46 times
    Quote Originally Posted by MMCdude View Post
    According to tractordata.com, a JD 4020 is anywhere from 8225-9560 lbs. Once you figure in any more wheel weights and any attachments, I'd think you're well into pushing the limits, but would probably be OK for an occasional tow with good trailer brakes. (I'm assuming those are 7K axles on your PJ)

    I spent many hours on a '68 4020 with Power Shift in my younger years. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
    That was kind of my theory, it's definately on the bigger end of what I'd want to tow. I guess I could take a closer look at like a 3020 or 2630 but I have just never read anything negative about the 4020! I doo have good brakes and it would be on flat ground bringing it from somewhere in the great plains.
    @Chris H I could get one of the work trucks from my former boss but depending on how far away it is I'm afraid that would be a lot of miles to ask. And thats just mean teasing you with a beast of a car like that!

    Ooh well, this would still be a while off if the decision is to buy one at all I just am trying to decide what would be a good tractor to propose to my father
    2011 F-150 xlt SuperCrew 4X4 3.55

  7. #6
    Ecoboost Pro MMCdude's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    west central Illinois
    Posts
    560
    Member #
    8345
    Liked
    328 times
    Keep an eye on the auction listings, lots of farmers retiring around here these days...
    _______________________________
    2014 F150 XLT Supercab, 3.5L EB, 3.73 axle, Max Tow Package, HD Payload Package (8200 GVWR), Kicker audio upgrade, wheel well liners, and trying to figure out how to squeeze in a CB and scanner...

  8. #7
    Ecoboost Pro Mitchf150's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Puyallup, WA
    Posts
    928
    Member #
    4854
    Liked
    417 times
    What is the weight rating on the trailer you are going to use to put a #9000 tractor on it? If it's the one in your pic with the hay on it, I don't think that's enough trailer much less what your truck can haul.. Most farms I've seen always have a dual axle 8 lug trailers and an 8 lug trucks...

    Good luck!

    Mitch
    2013 F150 SuperCab 4x4 XLT Max Tow 3.73 Egoboost. #7700 GVWR, #1920 payload. Bilstein 5100 shocks, PowerStop "Max Tow" brakes. Hellwig 2500 overload spings. 2003 Prowler Lynx 722F, #5000 GVWR and weighs every bit of it!

  9. #8
    Ecoboost Regular SENDIT's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    194
    Member #
    46826
    Liked
    46 times
    I bought the trailer used but based on PJs website I believe it has 7k axles but it may be 6k axles but I am toying with using an old construction trailer a friend of mine has that has 7k axles and would be more up to the task

    Edit: I feel like i made it sound like I was dead set on something the size of a 4020. I am not, if I need to downsize what I am thinking to stay safe thats fine, I'd rather have to make an extra pass with a smaller mower than plow into some poor person on the highway because of a failure of some sort
    Last edited by SENDIT; 04-25-2019 at 12:33 AM.
    snakebitten likes this.
    2011 F-150 xlt SuperCrew 4X4 3.55

  10. #9
    Ecoboost Sr Member Bird1's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Southern Illinois
    Posts
    56
    Member #
    54266
    Liked
    17 times
    A 4020 will be too much to tow with an F 150, it would do it but it is not a sane thing to do, but if you insist I would not put a 4020 on anything smaller than a trailer rated for 14000 lbs.
    Everything about the 4020 except the horsepower can be had on a smaller 2020, built practically the same but a smaller engine the 2020 will handle food plot, property maintenance and mowing just fine and be able to be trailered by an F 150 on a 10,000 lbs trailer.
    snakebitten likes this.
    2014 F 150 Supercab XLT 4wd 3.5 Ecoboost

  11. #10
    Ecoboost Pro MMCdude's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    west central Illinois
    Posts
    560
    Member #
    8345
    Liked
    328 times
    Quote Originally Posted by Bird1 View Post
    A 4020 will be too much to tow with an F 150, it would do it but it is not a sane thing to do, but if you insist I would not put a 4020 on anything smaller than a trailer rated for 14000 lbs.
    Everything about the 4020 except the horsepower can be had on a smaller 2020, built practically the same but a smaller engine the 2020 will handle food plot, property maintenance and mowing just fine and be able to be trailered by an F 150 on a 10,000 lbs trailer.
    One advantage OP has is that there aren't many hills in Kansas like that leading from the river up to the court house in Chester.

    Some other options are the AC 180 or 190, coming in somewhere around the 6500-7700 lb range...
    _______________________________
    2014 F150 XLT Supercab, 3.5L EB, 3.73 axle, Max Tow Package, HD Payload Package (8200 GVWR), Kicker audio upgrade, wheel well liners, and trying to figure out how to squeeze in a CB and scanner...

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. I need to ditch the 18s and move to 17s...
    By Talley in forum F150 Ecoboost Performance
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 11-18-2014, 06:41 PM
  2. So my lawn tractor has headlights....
    By Nasty Wendy in forum Off-Topic
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-09-2014, 05:26 PM
  3. Brand new tractor
    By ecrous0 in forum Off-Topic
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-19-2014, 10:03 AM
  4. Tractor Pulls
    By RedTruckRider in forum Off-Topic
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 03-22-2014, 02:05 AM
  5. Love this forum but must move on.
    By limited in forum F150 Ecoboost Chat
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: 02-13-2014, 10:43 AM
Connect with us: F150 Ecoboost Forum on Twitter F150 Ecoboost Forum on Facebook F150 Ecoboost Forum RSS Feed
Find us on Google+