This is a discussion on We are building another 470rwhp Ecoboost within the Tifosi Performance forums, part of the Vendors category; Originally Posted by GearHead_1 Ryan, I get that people donít want to give away trade secrets. Sadly, numbers (percentage improvement) at same conditions are all ...
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@JerryTX, I see you are "kissing" 500RWHP now with your setup and a 93 Octane tune. Unfortunately, not all of us can get 93 Octane.
Have you considered trying your engine on a lower octane tune? I suggest this for two reasons:
1) Obviously not all of us have 93 Octane, and only have 91 Octane at best. It would be interesting to see the difference so people who are "octane limited" can see what they can reasonably expect. If it is 450RWHP on 91 - many people may be more than happy with that.
2) What about tuning around 87 Octane? With the high price of fuel, many guys may like a built motor that can safely run 87 octane and still get 400-425RWHP.
In fact, the motor may run safer with a well tuned 87 Octane tune as it can be less stressful on the internals of the motor than a 500RWHP engine. Also, less demands on the HPFP.
I am sure there are a number of guys, especially with the high price of fuel, that would be very interested in a built engine making a safe 400-425RWHP on an 87 tune. They can still chose to run a higher octane grade of fuel for that safety factor OR they chose to ONLY run Tier 1 Fuel. BUT, if they are FORCED to run a "not-so-name-brand" fuel because they stuck in some back-road hick town in the boonies, they could compensate by buying Premium (that is probably only a good as a Tier One 87).
I am putting this out for you, as it seems all you would need to do, is get the engine re-tuned for 91 and 87.
I think you may find a whole new crowd of people are interested in what your truck will do when it runs 91 and 87. AND ... you may find that for 'normal day-to-day' driving, the 87 Octane tune is still a potent tune but MUCH cheaper run every day.
Finally, with ported heads, more boost and possible a few more mods, your engine may make 600RWHP on a 93 tune - but it will be a short, bright life unless it is built internally to handle the 600RWHP.
But, if you use those same parts but tuned for 87 Octane, you may have 450 or 500RWHP and an engine that can last due to less stress with a slightly de-tuned engine that can run 87 Octane.
Again, you may attract a new crowd of interested customers - who want to run 87 Octane but also want more RWHP - and willing to buy the parts they need. For many, the savings they will have on 87 Octane could help justify the cost of the parts.
PS: I posted this in your other post in the Performance Forum as not everyone comes to your Vendor Forum. But I think others (especially those who run 87 Octane) should see this.
Last edited by Grim Reaper; 05-06-2018 at 05:04 PM.
2013 F-150 4x4 Supercab 145"WB Ecoboost XLT, Group 302A, XTR Trailer Package, E-Lock 3.55s ...
Bolt-ons Installed: Banks CAI, Wagner CAC, Full Race Catted Downpipes, Custom 3" exhaust w/3" Flowmaster dBX Muffler
Tuned by Torrie McPhail at www.unleashedtuning.com 91+ Octane 535 RWTQ @ 2750 / 372 RWHP @ 4900 - (Mustang Dyno)
Mods (Waiting): Mishimoto Hardpipes, Tifosi Ported & Ceramic Coated Exhaust Manifolds, Full Race GT Turbos & SPD Ported Adapters
Hey everyone...I'm back. Truck is still incredible as ever and love driving it. I am a tournament bass fisherman and pull the boat with the upgrades and its honestly better than my old F250. But the fun is the daily driving. Jerry and his team did an amazing job on the truck and I have no regrets....
That said..... I have the truck up for sale. I contemplated getting a Class C or B motorhome to pull the boat and have my "base" versus the crappy motels but have decided on a Slide in Camper. I found the camper but have not found the truck yet. Been looking at 1 ton DRW and have driven a few...Actually found 2 that I would have bought that day but dealerships and their F&*()ing NADA stance will eventually drive me nuts. As most know, they won't give you credit for what the truck actually is, they are quoting trade offers that are basically the same as if I brought in a bone stock truck with bald tires, no exterior enhancements etc....Just the NADA number (and dealer number at that).
So.....If anyone knows someone that wants a turn-key truck that Jerry's team built, I have it in my driveway. I'll even throw in a "check up cost" at Jerry's shop for peace of mind.
I've posted on CL and Auto Trader with the usual scam or kid responses....I am ready to go. I have it listed for $29K, best dealer offer has been $23K. If someone comes along with $27, I'll let it go (I owe $29K still but will pay the difference).
Tom - 214-336-6489
One more deal sweetener....I'll throw in this Kodiak Truck Tent made for this F150 !!! That was not cheap!
Hell of a deal
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