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You think you're making 550 hp at the tires on stock turbos?
550 seems to be achievable with e50. The 5 star e50 tune makes 550hp/600tq on 17+ trucks. On their dyno stock reads 330/415 just to put how the dyno reads in perspective. Once my hub dyno finally shows up I’ll find out what kind of power my 17 can make on E85 with meth injection. Since I’m new to tuning the gen 2 on E85 I don’t know what MBT timing is so I’m stuck on street tuning till I get dyno in and can start ramping up tuning. Right now I’m only running 14-16 degrees timing at 18-20psi. I’m sure mbt is closer to 20 but who knows.


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Good air and e50 I'm at 17* and 18psi average holding steady safe lambda .76
 

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You're a stud, Benny! You also upgraded the in-tank right? How much is the returnless set up and in-tank helping with that 50%? Forgot about injectors... when do those run out? I don't think I'll have that issue with GTs, could be an important detail if looking into the 2018 snails. Although it looks like GH is making it work to 510+ and might have another 20 to go. Pretty crazy to me to get 500+ to the wheels with very minimal work

My mind is so scattered trying to recall all this stuff I've read. I'm too busy and shouldn't even be on here lol, sneak in for a quick mental break and am distracted and forced to think.
Sorry, missed this!

I think the return system helps with consistency of fuel supply to the HPFP and keeps fuel circulating so the pump stays cooler. Ryan also helped me out with getting the in-tank pump sorted out. I'm running the high-pressure Walbro 450.

Only basing this on what I've read between the lines, but stock injectors wouldn't be much good past 675 at the crank. @RMB_Ryan or @mattr66 could probably provide a better number given they have the experience.
 

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Don't know what 675 at the crank would be at the ground with 35's, but I am almost 100% sure I'd be a happy driver.

I ain't gonna need injectors.

(Just begging for another helping of crow)



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Don't know what 675 at the crank would be at the ground with 35's, but I am almost 100% sure I'd be a happy driver.

I ain't gonna need injectors.

(Just begging for another helping of crow)

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With dual fuel, I think you will have zero concerns.

I'm spinning 34.2" tires, so If I can hit 500whp, I'll be pretty darn happy.
 

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If running on e85 only at that power level, gen 2 can get away with port injector upgrade only, but for real world octane tolerance on pump gas you will want to do most of the work with direct injection....

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All this testing has been going on for a lonnnng time, interesting in something tangible not words.

#whileyouweretalkingaboutthinkingaboutdoingit

I would have to say that the only testing and innovation I have seen in the last year has been done by @mattr66 , Brewcityboost , 5star, and CR Performance

edit: forgot about Justin wheeler @ J2Fabrication

Genuinely curious, but what has Justin Wheeler done?

I guess Ryan doing Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing to his specs is nothing then?

EDIT: and 4.2 Stroker Cranks, Billet 3.5 Cranks, Spec King Bearings....man it's a long list!
 

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Genuinely curious, but what has Justin Wheeler done?

I guess Ryan doing Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing to his specs is nothing then?

EDIT: and 4.2 Stroker Cranks, Billet 3.5 Cranks, Spec King Bearings....man it's a long list!
I do know he had the turbo manifolds, the intake, and he had the cams and extra fueling made. If I ever had an engine issue I would go see him since he is close. He builds a lot of mustang engines with some pretty high power so I would not hesitate to use him since he is in CO as well
 

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I do know he had the turbo manifolds, the intake, and he had the cams and extra fueling made. If I ever had an engine issue I would go see him since he is close. He builds a lot of mustang engines with some pretty high power so I would not hesitate to use him since he is in CO as well
Cool, I saw some mock-ups on here and Facebook, but never saw anything that made it onto a clients vehicle (I could be looking in the wrong places though or just missed it).
 

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Genuinely curious, but what has Justin Wheeler done?

I guess Ryan doing Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing to his specs is nothing then?

EDIT: and 4.2 Stroker Cranks, Billet 3.5 Cranks, Spec King Bearings....man it's a long list!

I didn't know he designed and manufactured: Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing, crank and billet cranks.

I was under the impression that he got all of those from companies designed and manufactured them.

Did he invent the ecoboost as well?
 
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I didn't know he designed and manufactured: Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing, crank and billet cranks.

I was under the impression that he got all of those from companies designed and manufactured them.

Did he invent the ecoboost as well?

LOL, you're a riot.

He does work with the best in the business to get parts that are built to his design. I never claimed he manufactured them...just that they are to his specs.

You didn't answer my question, just deflected...
 

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I think he took the measurements and stuff for them based on what he saw with the engines and then had them manufacturer to spec?
 

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I think he took the measurements and stuff for them based on what he saw with the engines and then had them manufacturer to spec?
Yup, pretty much my understanding. I've read in his thread cases where he was heavily involved in development and worked with a Manufacturer to build something that is "proprietary" to RMB. Other cases, he provided his input and those changes made it into products that are sold to everyone.

He's a true engine builder and seems to put a great effort into R&D and improving the platform. I work for a manufacturer and am pretty heavily involved in the development and product side. I can honestly say that we don't even see the tip of the ice berg with Ryan on what's going on behind the scenes. The amount of time and effort, is mind-blowing.
 

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Look at it any way you choose, but the piston and rings in my build were absolutely specified down to the minute detail based on reasoning. They don't have a part number that's listed in some catalog.
My valve springs were absolutely 1-offs as a result of some fairly extravagant testing on some weird machinery that took considerable effort and TIME. (Time is incredibly finite resource)

My valves are very specific and not in an ordinary build. (thus the valve spring investment)
My Billet crank was quite the journey in development efforts.

I could continue, but you get the point.

I can't and won't defend every single criticism, mostly because it's not going to make a bit of difference with some percentage of detractors. But it's quite a reach to imply that there's no differentiation between engine builders and/or the whole thing is just smoke and mirrors.

I'm glad that I'm on the customer end of this industry. I'd never consider being the supplier side. Lol

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Genuinely curious, but what has Justin Wheeler done?

I guess Ryan doing Pistons, Rings, Cams, Rods, Heads and cylinder bracing to his specs is nothing then?

EDIT: and 4.2 Stroker Cranks, Billet 3.5 Cranks, Spec King Bearings....man it's a long list!
@TX-Ripper, I'm still waiting for you to back up your claims.
 

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Interesting, you can't be bothered to type one thing to back up your statements, and yet you ask others too?

Full race is a vendor that should be held to a higher standard. The second they said that the 2013-2018 turbos were exactly the same I questioned it too.
 

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Just one example of many from TX...

Am I wrong?


you seem to be mad that I’m not responding the way you want.

Like I said before I’m not interested in arguing with you.
 
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