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Long story short, getting another subaru is out of the question due to the fact that my daughter wont let me get rid of the 91 Miata that her great grandmother left us with prior to going to heaven...... I need a reliable, fun car again and the 100hp Miata is none of that. I mean, it is a pretty fun car to drive but has no AC and having double to triple the hp/tq would make it even better. I've been doing my research and have came to the conclusion that I need to start saving for/lookiing for resouorces, and/or anyone who has done a 302 swap. My thinking was to just get a turn key motor (from where?) and the monster miata V8 kit (MONSTERMIATA.COM). I know im at a ecoboost forum and getting a 2.7 in there would be nice, but im trying to minimize the fabrication and costs down. The guys who sell the V8 install kit also have a Barny style guide that would make it a whole lot easier. The prices for the parts on the list look a little high, but i think it will be a lot easier if i can get the kit in full vs here and there. I know one of yall have done this before, speak up!!! lol
 

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I'll bite.

You mention reliability and daily driver and air conditioning........

As much as I find a V8 Miata swap appealing as fun, 2 things about it conflicts with your stated desires. Although with enough money you could build the little Frankenstein toy into a reliable daily driver with AC. Lol

But I'm around a lot of Miatas and there are FEW NA and NB's that are still in that kind of working order. Most of which are really still nice because they are low mileage and well taken care of.

Step up to the NC and ND and it is effortless to find examples of a much more modern Miata with the creature comforts that make it a defendable daily driver with extreme reliability. And while "more power" is something I would never poopoo, since I have the disease myself, these newer Miatas with the 155-185HP motors are sitting in cars that barely weigh more than 2000lbs.

Driven with spirit, they are not in anyone's way!

By the way, I love Miatas! It's hard to find a car that has that balance of minimum weight possible, but with the amenities that the spoiled man won't live without. All packaged in a remarkably reliable and relatively inexpensive toy. The BEST thing about them to me is you can literally TOSS them into corners and playfully experience over/understeer at safe speeds. I'm a suspension and handling junkie way more than a 0-60 guy.

Oh, and did I mention you can drop the top in 1.5 seconds while sitting behind the wheel? :)


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You could always throw a hellcat engine in it


The car is appropriately named the “Hellkitty”


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Flying Miata and Goodwin Racing (Brian) are the go-to folks for modding these little go-carts.

As mentioned, mines bone-stock under the hood, but a few wicked enhancements to keeping the contact patch in contact. :)

Shined it up this morning, but the fingerprints on the lense sullied the sparkle


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I'll bite.

You mention reliability and daily driver and air conditioning........

As much as I find a V8 Miata swap appealing as fun, 2 things about it conflicts with your stated desires. Although with enough money you could build the little Frankenstein toy into a reliable daily driver with AC. Lol

But I'm around a lot of Miatas and there are FEW NA and NB's that are still in that kind of working order. Most of which are really still nice because they are low mileage and well taken care of.

Step up to the NC and ND and it is effortless to find examples of a much more modern Miata with the creature comforts that make it a defendable daily driver with extreme reliability. And while "more power" is something I would never poopoo, since I have the disease myself, these newer Miatas with the 155-185HP motors are sitting in cars that barely weigh more than 2000lbs.

Driven with spirit, they are not in anyone's way!

By the way, I love Miatas! It's hard to find a car that has that balance of minimum weight possible, but with the amenities that the spoiled man won't live without. All packaged in a remarkably reliable and relatively inexpensive toy. The BEST thing about them to me is you can literally TOSS them into corners and playfully experience over/understeer at safe speeds. I'm a suspension and handling junkie way more than a 0-60 guy.

Oh, and did I mention you can drop the top in 1.5 seconds while sitting behind the wheel? :)


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The one thing that drives me to wanting another subaru or wanting to keep this NA is that I feel conected to these two cars. Both suck for long distance driving, but feels like a dream when im hitting corners or doing some spirited driving. As far as price and reliability with AC, a brand new 302 should give me the best bang for the buck being that its the cheapest out of all the conversions (13B, K24, LS, etc) and will be perfect amount of power without putting any mods on it outside of bolt ons. Selling the car and stepping up to a newer set up is out of the question, this specific vehicle came from a family member that wanted to keep it int he family with hopes of her great grand kids driving it one day. I have toyed around with the idea of building the block up or swapping it to a newer generation, but for a couple k more, i get the reliability of a brand new engine in stock form with a 302. Other conversions also require a heavy amount of fabrication which I have no experience or can become costly when I have to pay someone esle to do it. If I had the money, I'd say screw it and just go with the and get a Flyin Miata Hubu!!! And yes, Flyin, Goodwin, and Moss are my 3 go to sites for miata parts..... Since I got the car I've got a replacement top, rotors/pads, plugs/wires, master cylinder, break lines, etc. from one of those 3 places. Glad to see another person on here that appreciates the miata, even in stock form!!!
 

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You could always throw a hellcat engine in it


The car is appropriately named the “Hellkitty”


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Allwhiteeco, its crazy you posted this, about a week ago i saw the video on youtube of this car. This thing is a BEAST!!!
 

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This kit was the first kit that came to mind before looking at conversions. I thought about the civic I bought that costed me double when i decided to put a turbo kit on an old motor. A week after the greddy kit went on I was sending the block to golden eagle to get it bored, sleeved, and fit with cp pistons and manley rods. I have the short nose crank version of the 1.6 that had the most issues. With my luck, I would be driving the car and throw a rod within the 1st 100 miles of driving it on. With my mentality I would end up going the same route i did with the civic and sometime throughout the process I would be like..... Now my block can handle more power....... gt35 and shoot for 500? skip the time and do her right the first time!!! lol
 

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Well, now that you've responded I can tell you weren't nearly as "flighty" with your considerations as it might have come across.

You've really REALLY been looking into it.

So I'm completely onboard. Lol

I now know you are someone who actually intends to do this right!

And keeping in the family was the best motive you listed. Miatas are amazing cherished memory makers.

PS: Brian at Good-Win got some more of my money today, in fact. I'm going with the front and rear sway bars he recommends and a nice one piece strut tower brace since my GT didn't get one from the factory. My fear is the thing will get TOO tied down and loose some of its low speed playfulness. We'll see.


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i'm deffo not going to make any improvements to stiffin it up yet, the additional roll and slop make up for the lack of power in the 1.6, lol. However, you do have a ND that has a bit more power in stock form so some stiffening may make for better feel and more confidence. And yes, I have thought about this for a looooong time!
 

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Have you driven an ND?

It's nice that Mazda worked hard to go back in the direction of the original design intent and lightened the car as much as they could. It certainly feeeels lighter than my brothers NC. (which I admittedly think is more comfortable)

So the 155HP has a lighter burden. But on paper, like most vehicles, you can't really predict how well or not so well the power translates. In my opinion the torque curve is what makes the ND so much easier to hustle. You don't feel like you have to to wring its neck to stay in the flow of traffic. In fact, it has enough grunt to stay out front if you DO pour a little coal to it.

Of course it it can't be compared to the outrageous power to weight ratio your V8 swap will provide. That's got to be a riot!

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