[Boatwaco]

My price point will be dependent on my situation when I need to go look for another vehicle. I will say that I was shaking my head at a $99K Lightning I saw at dealership yesterday. It will be interesting to see when people start returning their recently bought and overpriced vehicles - those that grabbed vehicles after the huge price increases hit. These will cycle back into the pool soon and I'm interested to see how they will be valued and priced. I used to look at Window Sticker MSRP when making decisions on buying a preowned vehicle. It helped my mind establish a base as-new value. I can't do that anymore.
I'll pay a fair price for a vehicle that meets my needs (and wants and desires) at the time. I'll most likely avoid buying new until things settle out in the "new normal" - which I am afraid will be "pay MSRP or walk away".

 

[Boatwaco]

Tom...can we get a ruling on the man card??

Man card status maintained for both of you questioning your status. Keeping your man card is not dependent on brand loyalty. Being a part of a civil discussion of financial pros and cons is evidence of being manly.

Here’s a story no one asked for but I will share:
Long ago, a mentor (the Plant Manage at a manufacturing company where I worked) taught a group of new Supervisors I was a part of a valuable lesson I still follow today. He expected each of us to have an opinion on every item we discussed in staff meetings. We were expected be able to present and defend our opinions in a professional manner, listen actively to others as they presented their opinions, as well as agree to follow the consensus decision that was made in the meeting. Whether we agreed with the decision or not, we still were bound to follow it.
This was all back in the mid 80’s, and Plant Manager started every meeting by saying “Men, what’s on your minds today?”.
Therefore, if you’re willing to present and defend your opinions in a non combative manner, you must be a Man!

 

[Boatwaco]

I’ve read back through this thread and must admit it didn’t evolve like I thought it would (or wouldn’t).
I’m impressed with the overall discussion and it reinforces my prior belief my that you are a practical and smart group of F150Ecoboost owners. Thank you all for an engaging and thoughtful and pragmatic thread.

 

[Boatwaco]

Nah! There’s still plenty of time and energy to get into some good ol’ argumentative discussions. It’s time now for this thread to turn an about face and become the next greatest oil-filter-plugs-and-octane like discussion!

I say buy now! Whatever the MSRP. Just get what you want; regardless of what you need!
Who’s with me? Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

(think of John Belushi as Bluto in Animal House making his German’s speech when you read that a second time).

 

[Boatwaco]

I'll pay a fair price for a vehicle that meets my needs (and wants and desires) at the time. I'll most likely avoid buying new until things settle out in the "new normal" - which I am afraid will be "pay MSRP or walk away".

I will stick with my earlier comment. I would like a brand new truck (again) one day. But I’ve put a lot into the one I have now. No use getting rid or her now.

 

[Boatwaco]

When i was 18 i got my first job that offered 401k

When I was 18 they hadn’t counted up past 400 yet.

 

[Boatwaco]

 

[Boatwaco]

Thread detour:
Let’s create a service where we eat the cookies for someone! They buy them - doing their good dead to help that organization - but ship us the boxes to eat. This way we are helping the buyer maintain their exiting calorie intake.

 

[Boatwaco]

I think New vehicles will become a luxury once again, reserved for those in the upper 1% of income earning range. Having payments of $1000 or more a month for an auto loan will not be sustainable for typical incomes. Not sure when this will shift but I do think a shift is coming. I hope the 1% will be buying trucks equipped with the options I want and will take good care of the truck for the year or 2 or 3 they lease it. I'll be ready to buy once they trade it back in.
But until then, I'll keep my awesome truck and work on my list of strange mods.

 

[Boatwaco]

My daughter is really busy, but occasionally will venture around the pond and come check in on me. "How are you really doing dad?"
She gets irritated with my whimsical replies and would much prefer that I give her something to worry with her about?

Discussion about prostate issues and preparing for a prostrate exam (whether true or just talk) tend to make these types of discussions with daughters become very brief.