[AllWhiteEco]

Still doesn't mean those custom tunes are as good as the Custom Tunes for SCT. I currently don't know any tuners who also write tunes for the Bullydog device. And even then, what are the results? Just like the Diablo custom tunes don't currently seem as good as the custom tunes for the SCT Devices. Even when the Tuner writes custom tunes for both. This is a case where you do NOT want to be first. Let them PROVE themselves. About the only "other programmer" worth looking at (if you want custom tunes) is the HP Tuner ... and then you want do some research first.

Here is a quote from the link I'm attaching.

" Unlock every ounce of power from your vehicle using custom tuning technology from SCT "

http://www.bullydog.com/GT_Custom_Tuning.php

It's basically up to our own interpretation until someone with the actual software can chime in.

 

[Grim Reaper]

Here is a quote from the link I'm attaching.

" Unlock every ounce of power from your vehicle using custom tuning technology from SCT "

Bully Dog - Gas and Diesel Performance

It's basically up to our own interpretation until someone with the actual software can chime in.

Then go buy it, take it to the track and tell us all about it.

I want some performance comparisons - not advertisement.

 

[AllWhiteEco]

Then go buy it, take it to the track and tell us all about it.

I want some performance comparisons - not advertisement.

By someone, I meant a reputable SCT tuner that will actually be interacting with the tuning software. They will be the first to know if there is a difference between the two. Personally, I'm happy with my Livewire, but this new release of custom tuning still gives the OP a chance to get more out of his GT than the canned tunes without having to spend another $400+ on another tuning device.

 

[Grim Reaper]

By someone, I meant a reputable SCT tuner that will actually be interacting with the tuning software. They will be the first to know if there is a difference between the two. Personally, I'm happy with my Livewire, but this new release of custom tuning still gives the OP a chance to get more out of his GT than the canned tunes without having to spend another $400+ on another tuning device.

Highly unlikely. Most tuners only write for SCT. There is a learning curve for ANY new device. That's time & money. Unless there is a noticeable market & demand, they are not going to invest that time. And then, does that device have ALL the functionality of the current SCT Device?

They are finding that out with the Diablo. Doesn't have all the functionality and the tuners are not producing tunes as good with the Diablo as they can with SCT Devices. Only time will tell if the Diablo can be tuned as well as the SCT devices. But, I am not going to buy one with the HOPE the Diablo WILL be tuned as well as the SCT Devices.

The Bullydog GT will be the same. AND, before you say "But Bullydog is merged with SCT" ... SCT also produces Software for DIY Tuners ... BUT they force you to take classes in their facilities AND at the end, you discover that SCT didn't put ALL the tables in the DIY Version??? So no DIY Tuner can produce as good a tune as the Professional Tuners ... because SCT didn't give you ALL the tables.

And this IS an SCT product they are selling long before any Merger.

DO NOT BUY INTO ANY HYPE. The only PROVEN thing I have seen is SCT devices with Custom Tuners who are not SCT.

PS: If SCT could write awesome Custom Tunes, they why "sandbag" their Canned Tunes so ANY Custom Tuner can outperform it?

#alreadyburnedbysct

 

[the_musty_yoda]

Highly unlikely. Most tuners only write for SCT. There is a learning curve for ANY new device. That's time & money. Unless there is a noticeable market & demand, they are not going to invest that time. And then, does that device have ALL the functionality of the current SCT Device?

They are finding that out with the Diablo. Doesn't have all the functionality and the tuners are not producing tunes as good with the Diablo as they can with SCT Devices. Only time will tell if the Diablo can be tuned as well as the SCT devices. But, I am not going to buy one with the HOPE the Diablo WILL be tuned as well as the SCT Devices.

The Bullydog GT will be the same. AND, before you say "But Bullydog is merged with SCT" ... SCT also produces Software for DIY Tuners ... BUT they force you to take classes in their facilities AND at the end, you discover that SCT didn't put ALL the tables in the DIY Version??? So no DIY Tuner can produce as good a tune as the Professional Tuners ... because SCT didn't give you ALL the tables.

And this IS an SCT product they are selling long before any Merger.

DO NOT BUY INTO ANY HYPE. The only PROVEN thing I have seen is SCT devices with Custom Tuners who are not SCT.

PS: If SCT could write awesome Custom Tunes, they why "sandbag" their Canned Tunes so ANY Custom Tuner can outperform it?

#alreadyburnedbysct

I've been talking to Bully Dog and here's the scoop...

Their "canned" gas tune is either a 93 octane performance tune or an 87 octane tow. They don't switch "on the fly" because most people either use 87 or 93 every time they're at the pump. This actually makes sense. You can adjust for tire size, RAI/CAI, and transmission shifting with either. And although the Bully Dog can accept a custom tune, Bully Dog does not provide any of these. They deferred me to a local dealer that I was not familiar with to ask them for a custom tune. I haven't gotten around to calling them yet and pricing it out, but it seems that other tuners offer custom tunes with the cost of the hardware. I'm looking at paying extra. I think BD has a little ways to go yet for custom tuning. So I will be switching out to the SCT.

--stay musty--

 

[AllWhiteEco]

Last quote then I'm done until we can get more information.

"Custom Tunes are created by one of Bully Dog / SCT's custom tuning dealers and are specifically designed for your vehicle and its modifications."

I sent Bullydog an email for curiosity's sake. I'll let you know their response.

 

[RR14FX2]

Here's the response I got from Bully Dog on facebook today. Based on my Tuner guy Specialty Auto Repair Shop, Parts, Race Cars, Antiques: Birmingham, AL: Henson Performance who I would say is one of the top in the southeast and Bully Dogs response I'll be going with the mentioned items.

• Jason Guthrie I'm was really considering the Bully Dog GT Platinum Gas tuner and Bully Dog RFI for my 2014 F-150 Ecoboost but I'm not reading anything good on the Ecoboost forums. People are saying go SCT and stay away from the Bully Dog that is the worst tuner for an EB even with the SCT merger?
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    Bully Dog Jason, the tuning is identical between Bully Dog and SCT at this point. All of their ford tuning has been imported on to the Bully Dog devices. Pick your favorite platform and enjoy!
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    Jason Guthrie That is exactly what I thought and my local tuner recommended the Bully Dog and has been custom tuning SCT for a longtime. So I put a lot of faith in his opinions and recommendations. So thank you for responding and reassuring me of your product. Going for baseline stock dyno pull Friday. Once I get my tuner and RFI I'll put up some numbers.
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[Grim Reaper]

Then go buy it, take it to the track and tell us all about it.

I want some performance comparisons - not advertisement.

Nothing has changed from my earlier comment.

However, I am not seeing a lot of guys tuning on the Bully Dog GT nor recommending it.

 

[the_musty_yoda]

Here's the response I got from Bully Dog on facebook today. Based on my Tuner guy Specialty Auto Repair Shop, Parts, Race Cars, Antiques: Birmingham, AL: Henson Performance who I would say is one of the top in the southeast and Bully Dogs response I'll be going with the mentioned items.

• Jason Guthrie I'm was really considering the Bully Dog GT Platinum Gas tuner and Bully Dog RFI for my 2014 F-150 Ecoboost but I'm not reading anything good on the Ecoboost forums. People are saying go SCT and stay away from the Bully Dog that is the worst tuner for an EB even with the SCT merger?
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    Bully Dog Jason, the tuning is identical between Bully Dog and SCT at this point. All of their ford tuning has been imported on to the Bully Dog devices. Pick your favorite platform and enjoy!
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    Jason Guthrie That is exactly what I thought and my local tuner recommended the Bully Dog and has been custom tuning SCT for a longtime. So I put a lot of faith in his opinions and recommendations. So thank you for responding and reassuring me of your product. Going for baseline stock dyno pull Friday. Once I get my tuner and RFI I'll put up some numbers.
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That's not at all what I have experienced with Bully Dog. And I have a Bully Dog GT programmer and have even registered it on their website with the update agent software. I also have a Bully Dog cold air intake. I'm a Bully Dog customer. I've spoken to 3 technicians on BD's customer service line and while all have been very courteous and polite, none have been able to help me with my EcoBoost. One even said that the custom tunes that were available for the ecoboost had not worked properly with "stock" trucks so they had stopped supporting tunes for the EcoBoost engine. The gas tuner they offer for the Ford f150 2011-2014 is a generic gas tune that applies to all engine sizes, even though you select 3.5L V6. The hp increase is somewhere at 30-35hp and they had no data on torque.

Bully Dog gave me the name of a local custom tuner, that when I called, told me that they only do a few in-house tunes and do not tune for Bully Dog. This dealer was also listed on BD's website. It has been disappointing to say the least. Not trashing BD because I have a grudge against them, I'm upset because I purchased their product and it has been lacking compared to others on the market. There must be some secret password that I'm not using in the "custom tuning" crowd because I am having zero luck with my BD.

This is my advice; Wait on Bully Dog to get fully seated with SCT or whoever before you buy their programmer for an ecoboost. Wait until they start posting updated EcoBoost canned tunes on their website. I don't think they have much to offer EcoBoost owners at this particular moment.

 

[the_musty_yoda]

Here's a picture of my programmer and cai. Not wanting you guys to think I'm a hater. Just frustrated.

 

[Grim Reaper]

No, I think you are someone who bought a device and found out it wasn't as well supported as Bully Dog claimed it to be.

My FEAR is ... BD & SCT bring out a NEW device and both us BD & SCT users are "orphaned".

 

[RR14FX2]

We will see I'm going Friday for some stock pulls on the dyno and I'll talk with my guy again. He has been in the business long enough that he knows what he's doing and he really knows his stuff when it comes to the SCT's. Yet he recommended the BD, I'm personally not doubting him when it comes to tuning any vehicle with whatever tuner be it SCT, Diablo, or BD. Maybe he knows that secret password?

 

[mmateri]

of course he has the secret password, and i'll tell you what it is, if you don't let anyone else know.... He gets more remuneration from BD than he does from the others....that means they are the best

 

[RR14FX2]

of course he has the secret password, and i'll tell you what it is, if you don't let anyone else know.... He gets more remuneration from BD than he does from the others....that means they are the best

Sure he's a SCT dealer, but if you go in his shop and tell him you want something else. Then that's what he gets you. I would be a fool to say he's not in it to make money, you got put pay the bills and put food on the table somehow. James is a top notch business man and knows his stuff, he tunes each car like it's his own and accepts each one as a challenge. No short cuts from him or shop, I know from personal experience he'll stay late to get your stuff done and get it done right. Hell he even makes house calls maybe I should call him Dr.Henson.

 

[Grim Reaper]

SCT = Numerous Tuners to chose from.

BD = Limited Tuners to chose from.


WOT is easy ... it's the part-throttle under numerous different conditions that is tough.

The part-throttle has ultimately been the determining factor of which tune to use, for me.

 

[Tallahassee]

Just throwing my two cents in here. But I've been running the canned SCT tune for about 6 months now and I noticed quite a difference. I just received my MPT 93 performance tune this afternoon. It doesn't even compare at all to the canned tune. It's a completely new vehicle, I can't believe the value I got for $100. That's just my personal experience.

 

[Grim Reaper]

Just throwing my two cents in here. But I've been running the canned SCT tune for about 6 months now and I noticed quite a difference. I just received my MPT 93 performance tune this afternoon. It doesn't even compare at all to the canned tune. It's a completely new vehicle, I can't believe the value I got for $100. That's just my personal experience.

YES! That is pretty much the experience of everyone when they finally get a custom tune. I've used MPT 93 and I found it MUCH BETTER than the canned tune too.

Personally, I enjoyed testing and trying the other tunes from major tuners (Unleashed, LET etc) and comparing them. That is when you learn what you like about one tune and dislike on another. Then find a tuner who can take ALL of the features you like and make one awesome tune.

PS: I like the colour of your truck. Good choice.