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I just bought a 2011 f-150 Lariat / Eco / Max Tow (Window Sticker was $57K). Came with additional Chrome and an extra set of rims with snow tires, folding bed cover & spray in. Much cheaper than anything I could find in the USA. I am new to the forum so I will contribute as best I can.

Prices are much better in Canada and there is no issue bringing one down. There is a lot of chatter about import taxes, etc. None true.

Summary: Buy vehicle. Get DOT and EPA letter from manufacturer. Cross border & get form 7501. Bring 7501 and Bill of Sale to your state DMV and register.

Buying in Canada
- They don't have titles. You make a Bill of Sale. Find examples on web to download.
- Instead of a title you will get the vehicle's 'registration' signed buy seller.
- Go to Canadian DMV and check vehicle for any liens ($12). Buyer beware - if you don't check you could be stuck. Also will need a temporary permit to drive it to the border ($24). You WILL need proof of valid insurance on the vehicle that you are buying. In my state, any vehicle I buy is covered for 14 days. But the DMV wouldn't buy it - so I emailed my agent and he sent proof with the vehicle VIN on it.
- I just brought seller to DMV with me - much easier.
- If there is a lien on it, you will have to pay off the lien and get lien release.

Get DOT and EPA Letter from Manufacturer
- DOT. All recent USA made cars and truck will meet USA requirements. But you need proof. Some cars will have a DOT sticker on door jam and some will have a Canadian sticker (Maple Leaf). If it has a Maple Leaf it won't work. Need letter.

- EPA. Under the hood will be an US EPA sticker.

- If you are missing either one you will need a letter from the manufacturer (must be on Manufacturer letterhead - not a dealer). Process is different for each manufacturer. You will need the VIN.

Ford: Can get letter from any Canadian Ford dealer. They charge whatever they want. One quoted $60. It takes a day as they have to contact Ford to get the letter.

You can also get a letter online from www.shopfordgear.com ($18). It takes 2 days and they email it to you (you will have to call them and ask for expedited service via email after placing order on web).

GM will do it for free and takes 3 days.

Hint: If you have a vehicle in mind you can get the VIN ahead of time from seller and get the letter ready.

Heading to Border
- Canada doesn't check you when you leave. You can ask for a paperwork showing you permanently exported the vehicle but it is not necessary.
- I went to a crossing in the middle of nowhere. Two customs guys asleep at the desk. They new the process - kind of.
- Show them Bill of Sale, your passport, Letter from Manufacturer and they will create a form 7501 for you. You MUST have this form or you cannot register it in the USA and must drive back to the border to get one.
- YOU ARE DONE. Home Free.


Register at Your DMV
- Took Bill of Sale and form 7501 to DMV and registered it. Didn't have to pay any more than if I had bought it form another state - Tax, Title & License.
- I originally was going to register in Oregon as they don't have sales tax. But my plans were changed and I headed to Minnesota. I will head out west with the F-150 but thought it wasn't prudent to drive through 5 states with an unlicensed vehicle.

Notes - It would be good to print out the original online ad. Bill of Sale should have all contact info for seller. If it had a lien on it you should have a lien release. Funny thing is US customs DIDN'T want to see the lien release. So you could technically import a vehicle with a lien on it. I see some gears turning in some reader's heads...

In Canada the license plates stay with the owner - not the vehicle. So when you buy it, you won't have a plate. Hence the need for a temporary transit permit.

You could bring a US license plate with you and slap it on until you get to the border. Of course you will want to remove it once on the USA side. Your form 7501 should be good if you get stopped.

My seller had the original dealer advertising plate. I put that on just so the spot wasn't noticeably blank.

If you are car dealer you can use your US dealer's plate.

Dealer vs Private Party
If you buy it at a dealer you will need to pay 5% GST and any provincial sales tax (might be another 5%). I did research about getting a refund of the GST but didn't need to as I ended up buying from a private party. I know Alberta only has GST - no sale tax.

Prices
Canadian dollar lost about 30% since oil prices dropped. Just a year or two ago Canadians used to come to the USA to buy vehicles. Further, Alberta in particular is in a recession and people are losing jobs left and right (Alberta = oil). During the boom everyone was rich and thought nothing of buying a $70,000 pick up. Well, those vehicle are now hitting the used market. My Canadian buddy just bought a 2013 Platinum loaded with 24K miles for US$30K. Beautiful truck.

Warranties
Most brands transfer. Just call and ask. My truck had a super premium extended warranty. It cost $100 to transfer it to my name. Warranty is good in Canada and USA. Already used it at my local dealer. Zero issues.

There is competition. US car dealers are buying like crazy up there. But bargains are abound. Canadians don't use Craigslist much - they use Kijiji.com
 
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K great story.

Now. Leave our trucks alone. You have your own. Just kidding.

Pics of your truck or we call you a liar. Forum rules !!

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This should be a sticky
 

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One more thing. Although the electronic dash can be changed from KM to Miles the speedometer will still be in KM. You can get a replacement sticker from US Speedo - Your source for everything speedometer

Here is a basic installation video: US Speedo Video - US Speedo

I haven't done this yet - too busy getting RV trailer ready to head west to warmer weather!

What's with the pics coming out upside down?
 

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Canadian dollar lost more ground. It may go to 1.40 to the dollar.
 

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Might head up to Edmonton to buy a vehicle for my mom. Someone t-boned her.
 

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Thanks Malacca - I referred to this post quite a bit while setting up the purchase of my truck.

Here's my East Coast experience:

After a lot of searching and cold calling dealers, I finally found a truck with the options I wanted at a dealer in Quebec using <www.autotrader.ca>.

Although this dealer was 30 minutes from the border, they had no idea how to sell me the truck and needed to contact a broker to work out the details. In the end I paid the 5% GST (federal tax) and $10 for a temporary plate (might not have needed the temporary plate, but it added to the documentation that the vehicle was indeed mine).

The hard part was the money exchange - They wanted an electronic transfer to their bank. My bank would charge me $35 to wire the money. The transfer arrives in Canada in USD and the Canadian bank converts it to CAD. Their bank insisted on a pretty lousy exchange rate, which would have cost me an extra $850 USD.

Other options for sending money with less fees are USFOREX and Transferwise, but they take a few days to go through vs. a few hours for the bank. If I were to do it again I would probably use Transferwise. At the time they had the best rate and the customer support was great.

In the end, the dealer agreed to split his 3% fee for putting the entire purchase on a credit card, and 1.5% was added to my total purchase price. My credit card is a "world" card with no fees, so the exchange rate was very good (plus I get the miles!).

At the border I had my letter from Ford (you buy this on their website for $18, and it gets emailed to you in 3 days), my EPA form, my DOT form, the bill of sale from the dealer, and the registration for the truck. Customs officer appreciated that I had done my homework, checked out the truck, asked me a few questions, and I was on my way.

Registering the vehicle: Massachusetts is not reciprocal with Canada, so I had to pay the full MA sales tax on the vehicle. Mass tax is calculated on purchase price or trade in value - whichever is HIGHER. My bill of sale was in CAD so it reflected a higher price that they wanted to use. DMV didn't really care what exchange rate was, so I went to Department of Revenue, pleaded my case, and wound up paying tax on the trade in value.

This process requires you to do a fair amount of work on your own, but if you understand what is needed, have all your forms in order, and have the time to do this, you have the potential to save a lot ($6000) on a new-to-you truck.

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Reviving an old thread here looking for some input. I recently bought a Canadian plated truck from a guy staying in CA through the winter. Not sure if the Customs officers around here just aren't used this kind of transaction but when I showed up with all my docs in order they said I need to go through a broker...which when I looked it up it seems like it also involves paying a tax. They referred to it as a formal entry.

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Maybe the US Customs changed the import laws, but you use to have to convert the Metric Speedo to a MPH Speedo by a specialist who would change the odometer as well from the Kms to MPH. Some states require the DRLs to be turned off too (you can do that with Forscan). The swapping the speedo use to be the biggest expense.

Also, if you buy in BC, you only pay $25 to ICBC (the Government Auto Insurance) and ICBC will give you the complete history of ALL accidents and claims the vehicle had ... including windshield. More accurate than Carfax.
 
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