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SO I took my truck in for service, Oil change and recall to door latches.

They called me and said the mechanic noticed a few things Alignment was out (I knew this got it aligned)

So then he drops this bombshell, "The mechanic noticed that you have alot of dirt and crud and stuff from winter and that it would be a good idea to take it apart and clean it out at the cost of $300."

So I asked my questions.
Jordan: "Did they drive my truck?"
Service Advisor: "No they did not."
Jordan:"So how could he know how my brakes are performing from a visual standpoint alone?"
Service Advisor: "So you don't want the brakes done?"
Jordan: "No I do not, what is my pad life like?"
Service Advisor: " 11/32 front 10/32 rear
Jordan: "Their fine."

Why the hell would a dealership recommend new brakes on a vehicle with less than 17000 miles on it that hasn't towed anything in its life.
 

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Brake job or brake cleaning/servicing?

Regardless, that's what dealerships (and many repair shops) do. They sell their wares.



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Tire places do the same thing, my wives old Explorer needed new tires a 50K and they tire place tried to get her to do a brake job. I told it was BS and she drove that car for 3 more years before it needed brakes.
 

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They do this because 95% of the population will do every thing that the dealers recommend because they're the "experts".... Haha
 

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Jordan, many people have had problems with the brakes on these trucks. Most common, the brake rotors warp and give a pulsation when you depress the brakes. Mine started around 45,000kms. Others have had them go sooner.

If I let the dealership fix them (I had a warranty that would force them), all they do is resurface the rotors, making them even thinner. They don't put new rotors etc. They just want to keep it running "good enough" until your warranty runs out and then force a brake job down your throat.

My recommendation, is to get a good set of aftermarket rotors and pads (Powerstop Z36 is very popular and reasonable in price), and do them yourself. You can easily do this yourself in your driveway in a few hours (depends how many beer breaks you take).

The stopping power of the Z36s are great. Far better than than the stock brakes plus the rotors are drilled and slotted, to fast cooling.

PS: I like to get a second set of pads and replace them when the pads are down just under 50%. Normally the rotors are still okay, and just installing new pads is even quicker than than rotors and pads. A full set of high performance rotors & pads - front and rear are $519 Canadian for a 2015 F150 Ecoboost 3.5 (if you pickup at their store ... and they have one in Edmonton)

https://www.4wheelparts.com/Brakes-Steering/Power-Stop-1-Click-Extreme-Truck-And-Tow-Brake-Kits-K6268-36.aspx?t_c=65&t_s=541&t_pt=8489&t_pn=PSTK6268-36

Once you have the rotors, replacement pads are about $120 Canadian Front & Rear. Half price if you only need fronts (which tend to wear out quicker than the rears).
 

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I would not recommend drilled rotors for trucks. They are prone to warping and cracking. For a track oriented sports car, they are great, for a street driven pick up truck, they are a bad idea. As far as resurfacing rotors, that's standard for any brake job. Rotors are made to be resurfaced many times, I've never heard of replacing the rotors whenever you replace the pads. So a dealership that resurfaces the rotors and replaces the pads is doing what every shop or individual would do when performing a brake job. But it sounds like the dealership is trying to sell you a brake job (at a premium price) that you might not need.
 

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I would not recommend drilled rotors for trucks. They are prone to warping and cracking. For a track oriented sports car, they are great, for a street driven pick up truck, they are a bad idea. As far as resurfacing rotors, that's standard for any brake job. Rotors are made to be resurfaced many times, I've never heard of replacing the rotors whenever you replace the pads. So a dealership that resurfaces the rotors and replaces the pads is doing what every shop or individual would do when performing a brake job. But it sounds like the dealership is trying to sell you a brake job (at a premium price) that you might not need.
Actually the power stop rotors are 100% designed for daily driving and towing. Lots of us have them and they are a million times better than the OE rotors and none of us have had any wear or uneven issues with the power stop rotors.
 

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My father in law just did his 2014 max tow hd eco at 800000 kms. A third of those kilometers is yanking a 10000 pound trailer that he lives in year round. I don't know exactly if the rears were done. He just had an issue with the truck last week a throttle issue popped up and it went into limp mode. Took it to Ford and nothing popped up and the drove it for a couple of days. He got them to replace the throttle body for $450 anyways..hopefully that's the issue

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I think you also have to understand that the dealership is covering their butt. If they notice an issue with a very important safety component of your truck and didn't notify you and you get in a major accident soon after, it could come back at them because your brakes failed. Since they now notified you the issue and you denied the service, they are no longer at risk of being liable. They have now made it the customers decision to leave it.
 

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Actually the power stop rotors are 100% designed for daily driving and towing. Lots of us have them and they are a million times better than the OE rotors and none of us have had any wear or uneven issues with the power stop rotors.
I concur with these PowerStops. I bought my Power Stop rotors and pads two years ago (I like to have maintenance parts ready before I need them) and actually changed them last year (when my OEM brakes started to pulsated ... indicating my OEM rotors had warpped). And I have been very happy so far. No gouges, scratches or cracks and no brake dust. That is why I pre-purchased my front/rear pads already (and if I have ANY issues with the rotors in the future, I will buy those).

I also do a thorough inspection of my brake rotors and pads twice a year, when I do my change-over from winter to summer tires in the Spring, and from summers to winter tires in the Fall.

My next change over will be in 1-2 months.
 

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... As far as resurfacing rotors, that's standard for any brake job. Rotors are made to be resurfaced many times, I've never heard of replacing the rotors whenever you replace the pads. ...
It's been a very long time ago when resurfacing the rotors was the norm. That was in the old days when new rotors were a lot more expensive. But today, new OEM style rotors are cheap - even if you must pay a shop to do the work (because you don't have a spot to do it). There is little or no savings to have a brake shop resurface your rotors versus installing new OEM rotors. And now, you have rotors that are thinner and even more prone to warpping.

But if you have a spot where you can do a brake job, you can buy a full set of PREMIUM front & rear rotors & pads and install them yourself far cheaper than any brake shop, and have vastly superior braking.

The Powerstop Z36s with front & rear rotors and pads were only C$519 or US$390. And I am sure you lucky boys south of the 49th parallel can easily find places to buy them cheaper.

Most shops around where I live want over C$1,000 to do just the Fronts (with low quality parts made in China) and another $1,000 if you need to do the rears. I base this on some investigating for our Company vehicles recently. And that was some of the better prices. I won't even tell you what the dealers wanted.
 
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