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Matt’s 2.7 Ecobeast

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Hey guys, I’ve been doing so much to my truck, I decided to start a build thread.

Truck: 2016 XLT 2.7 Ecoboost 81k miles 3.55 rear end

Name: Snowflake
Mod List

JLT Intake
AMS Inlet Tubes
CVF Titan Intercooler
CR Performance Stage 4 Turbos
Xtreme DI Injectors
Xtreme DI EVO hpfp
Turbosmart Veeport BOV
SPD Catted Downpipes
SPD True 3” Resonator Delete
Corsa dB Performance Catback exhaust
Flowmaster FlowFX muffler (soon to be a magnaflow)
SCT LivewireTS+ Tuner

Appearance Mods

LED Headlights bulbs
Husky mudflaps
Rough Country LED rear bumper
Stubby antenna
Motofab 2.5” Level
Pro Comp 18” wheels
BF Goodrich K02 275/70/R18
Gator Tonneau Cover
Bed Rug Bed Liner
Raptor Style grille with grille lights
Bumpershellz bumper covers on the front


I mainly focused on power mods at first but got a few exterior mods accomplished!

Anyway, this is gonna be a fun build.


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#90 ·
Nice and thanks for the post
 
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#92 ·
I bet they are!!! Looks Great!
 
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#93 ·
Begs me to ask, why not remove the underhood insulation blanket? Even more sound? KM
 
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#98 ·
My wife said the same thing about getting one up soon!!!!!
 
#100 ·
Here’s an interesting bit of information.

Basically what’s happening is during WOT, my wastegates were 100% closed, resulting in 22.5 psi. Not a bad thing, but here’s what was actually bad.

See this photo? (I took the actuator off the stage 2 turbo and am comparing it with my stock turbo wastegate actuator on my old stock turbo.) This is the wastegate actuator, shoved all the way till the wastegate is closed, and that’s how far the bolt sticks out for the preload.

Stage 2 Turbo’s Wastegate Actuator
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Now, take a look at this picture. Here’s the stock wastegate off my old stock turbo. Look how far the threads stick out, there’s a lot less preload on the stock wastegates. So, I threw the stock wastegates onto the stage 2 turbos, and hopefully that fixes the problem.

Stock turbo’s Wastegate Actuator
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#104 ·
nice ^
 
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#105 ·
Filled up with 5 gallons of Ethanol and the rest with 91 today.

I don’t know what to say except, I have to find a way to run it more often.

Truck made 45lb/min and it was such a joy to drive. It’s wildly fast and just wants to hang out in the higher Rpms.
 
#108 ·
Only one way to find out!!!!
 
#114 ·
It appears my boost PID is off on any number, because earlier it was 10 psi, but manifold gauge pressure said 14.3 psi once I converted it.
 
#117 ·
I think I forgot to mention it, but I did a 0-60 time the other day just on a random road, traction control off and advance trac off. I was in 4x4 and brake boosted it a little more this time, still not a super hard launch, and got 5.4 seconds. I think I could do it even faster, but I don’t really want to push my drivetrain too hard. My 0-30 was like just slightly over 2 seconds.
 
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#118 ·
Matt do you have any insights on changes to mpg yet? Obviously not the top concern in a turbo swap, but I’ve been rather curious of the impact?
 
#119 ·
Yeah I do have some insights. I will say right off the bat, my mpg isn’t worse than before. On stock turbos and all tuned up, I was getting 16.5 mpg. On these turbos I’m getting 19 mpg. Why?
Here’s my theory. These big turbos take longer to spool up, so I can drive down the highway with less boost than before. In other words, the stock turbos efficiency was probably at its max with only 50-60% throttle and like 20 psi. These turbos have their most efficiency at much higher rpm so I think I’m burning less fuel, because I’m getting less air down low.

Before, on stock turbos, if I was going 30mph and I gave it 30% throttle I’d see like 25 or 26 lb/min.

On these big turbos, if I’m going 30 and I give it 30% throttle I only see like 20 or 22 lb/min.

But here’s the catch, it doesn’t feel any slower. I’m not sure if it’s because my torque is higher or what, but down low I’m making slightly less horsepower. But let me tell ya, up top, this thing is crazy.

On stock turbos it would pull really good off the line, and then when it got to 5000 rpm it would fall on its face and power would drop off.

On these turbos when it gets to 5000 rpm it pulls even harder. It does not drop off anymore. That’s why I was able to pull off a 6.3second 0-60 from a dig. Because up top it shaved off a lot of time.

Sorry, I got a little carried away in my answer to your question haha.
 
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Ok guys I have some cool stuff for you to look at.
Here’s a WOT run locked in 3rd gear from 3000rpm to redline. I was a little scared cuz I ended up at almost 100 mph, but I needed to do it.

This chart is showing a lot of stuff but at the moment the orange is airflow
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Here’s another graph showing Wastegate Percentage. You can see where it’s flat at the bottom it’s fully closed, then as it gets closer to redline it starts to open some, backing boost off to 18 psi or so. I’m not exactly sure why it’s backed off up top.
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Heres the most interesting info to me in this log. First time testing out the Manifold Gauge Pressure DMR instead of the Boost PID. The Boost PID is not accurate and is completely off. You can see I have numbered a couple things.

#1- Boost is at around 21 psi, rpm was around 3500
#2- Here boost has jumped up to 26 psi and it holds it for a ways as you can see.
#3- At this point boost has dropped down to 18 psi, and if you scroll back and look at my wastegate percentage screenshot you can see the wastegate opens up right here. It’s also at around 5600 rpm right here.
#4- This is the rpm’s so you can see it versus boost.
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#123 ·
Not trying to be critical, it is easy to clean up the graph and display the desired info.
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I may know only enough about this stuff to be dangerous but never tire of the info available!

Far as the vac you are pulling yes there is quite a difference as my OEM is into boost by 17% throttle. That can go a long way to the better MPGs you get with the big turbos. An aspect not even considered by most!
 
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#124 ·
Oh dang I didn’t even know. Thanks a lot! Yep, I honestly didn’t even consider it myself till I actually started driving. Then I immediately noticed they spooled up much slower. My guess is the stage 3s would get worse mpg because the exducer is smaller to make them spool faster. The stage 4s would probably get even better mpg, and I may upgrade to those eventually anyway.
 
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#126 ·
No no, I’m saying the speed scared me, I was on a road with a speed limit a lot lower than 100 lol. But yeah I should be the same as you then cuz I have a 3.55 as well and 6 speed trans.
 
#135 ·
Haven’t done any pics of the truck for a bit…
Removed the intercooler shutters today. I think it’s wise to keep them on in the winter to help reduce condensation, but I do have the “weep hole”. On the way home my IATs were only 10 degrees warmer than ambient. I’ve been seeing them at 88-100 degrees in 60-70 degree ambient temps. And the reason, is because they shutters are closed a lot of the time.
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