Trucks looking great, this build just keeps getting better. Keep it up!

 

Thanks man! I appreciate the enthusiasm! I am far from finished!

Some things on the list for the future…

Possibly going up to the stage 4 turbos
OEM Raptor Headlights
Raptor steering wheel
Morimoto tail lights
Some 20” or 22” wheels with summer tires setup for the summer.

 

Could do a log on freeway on ramps use full manual mode on the transmission and shift manually. With my 2017 6 speed I do 0-80 for my logs, that peaks at 96 MPH and 6000 RPM in third.

This was done on my BCB 93 octane logged custom tune, the Highlander variable octane will make more boost thru a larger RPM range but does not make as much SOTP power, and by 0-80 times. KM

 

Could do a log on freeway on ramps use full manual mode on the transmission and shift manually. With my 2017 6 speed I do 0-80 for my logs, that peaks at 96 MPH and 6000 RPM in third.
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This was done on my BCB 93 octane logged custom tune, the Highlander variable octane will make more boost thru a larger RPM range but does not make as much SOTP power, and by 0-80 times. KM

For all my logs I never shift manually because I want Brett to see what the trans is actually doing, not what I’m doing.

 

Well, enough is not enough.

I just placed an order to CRP this evening for the big boys, the stage 4 turbos.

We decided 26 psi was a bit too much and have to back off on the power. It’s making 40-42 lb/min on 26 psi, and I had hoped I could stay at that power level, but we can’t because I think it’s pushing those turbos a bit too hard. So, we had to back it off. That left me pretty disappointed, so after some discussion with Andrew from CRP, I went ahead and ordered the stage 4s. They will be more challenging for Brett to tune, especially at this elevation, but I think he can do it.

Im pretty excited. According to Andrew, there’s only like 2 or 3 people out there with the stage 4s, so im exploring new territory. I will document everything I can, and throw up plenty of YouTube videos on my channel.

But for now, anyone wanting a set of stage 2s, hit me up.

 

Here’s a little update.

I went back to the stock tune today.
That being said, I am always surprised at how nice the stock tune actually drives. Not a lot of horsepower but the torque is actually quite impressive.

I logged a WOT run and then pulled up a bone stock log I did a while ago to compare.

Here’s a bone stock WOT log. I have boost, airflow, rpm, and turbo wastegate percentage on this graph. Again, this is with stock turbos and stock tune. Made around 29lb/min

Here’s a WOT log with the stage 2 turbos, on the stock tune. It’s hard to tell, but it’s running slightly less boost, and at the high rpm, it does not drop off like the stock turbos do. Running about the same wastegate percentage. In fact, the wastegate percentage almost matches the other graphs wastegate percentage perfectly

Just having fun while I anxiously await the stage 4 turbos!

Also ordered a “big turbo” tune from Unleashed tuning.

 

interesting! No concerns running the stock tune on the stage 2s? Obviously the power will be stock, but drivability is normal? I’d love to have that as an option, but did not think it’d run like that.

Did you send your stock turbos in to be upgraded to stage 4?

 

Here’s some more testing.

I loaded Brett’s v1 tune, the fist tune he every gave me. Has boost raised by a couple psi and different throttle mapping and a couple other things.


Here’s a log with the stock turbos. Boost peaked at 16.38 on that particular run, it would sometimes do 17-18 on that tune depending on the situation. You can see the airflow in yellow, how it kinda builds and then has a little blip right after the shift. Rpm is in purple/pink and the other is wastegate percentage.

Down here we have some interesting things. On first glance it looks the same. Not quite. It held the gear for longer, rpm went to 6200 or so. Look at boost. It’s smoother. It still drops at redline, but the tune is causing that. Look at the airflow in yellow though, it’s literally a flat line across the graph. No blip. I find that fascinating. Also, it only peaked at 15.8 psi and still made the same airflow as I was making on 20 psi on the stock turbos.

 

Not tryna jinx ya but dude I hope that engine is tight when ya get the Stage 4's in

 

Well, if it didn’t blow up with 26 psi I don’t think it will!

I’m slightly nervous, but more excited than I am scared. What I’m most excited about is the versatility I will have. I can run them in low boost and keep the power down, or we can turn it up pretty wild!

Who knows… maybe there’s gonna be a built short block in its future!

 

The only risk that I see is the pursuit of maximum output rather than the pursuit of an already established safe limit.

A different way of saying what I mean is that if I were convinced that a said target of xxx Torque was safe for the motor, AND I knew that I would be satisfied with that target xxx, even if it was possible to squeeze more out of it, then it comes down to the various combinations of hardware, fueling, and software to reach the xxx target.

What is even more appealing to me personally is finding the healthiest/least-punishing way to meet the xxx target.

A conservative de-tuned 350HP is more appealing to me than a maxed out 350HP, if you know what I mean. One feels Effortless and smooth. The other feels like something might catch fire.

 

The only risk that I see is the pursuit of maximum output rather than the pursuit of an already established safe limit.

A different way of saying what I mean is that if I were convinced that a said target of xxx Torque was safe for the motor, AND I knew that I would be satisfied with that target xxx, even if it was possible to squeeze more out of it, then it comes down to the various combinations of hardware, fueling, and software to reach the xxx target.

What is even more appealing to me personally is finding the healthiest/least-punishing way to meet the xxx target.

A conservative de-tuned 350HP is more appealing to me than a maxed out 350HP, if you know what I mean. One feels Effortless and smooth. The other feels like something might catch fire.

You’re exactly right. And the reality is, at this elevation, I won’t be pushing this 2.7 as hard as the guys are pushing them at sea level on stage 2s and stage3s, so I feel pretty safe. It’ll probably be around 400 whp and that’ll be awesome, but definitely not paying it hard.

But just the thought of knowing that I have turbos that can support 600whp, just makes me feel good.

 

Well, the parts from Tasca arrived for the stage 4 swap. Now I’m just waiting on CRP!

 

Well, the parts from Tasca arrived for the stage 4 swap. Now I’m just waiting on CRP!

Since you've done this swap before.. were the turbo studs any trouble to get out? All that heat and maybe some road grime corrosion has me worried about taking mine out and breaking one.

 

An update and some truck photos…. Cuz why not?
anyway, stage 4 turbos will be here this weekend and I’ll hopefully get the project started on Sunday. Then we’ll be on with the tuning process.

Gotta love those valve covers…

Getting some clean up love today before the turbo install this weekend

AMS beauty…

 

Well, the biggest turbo on the market for the 2.7 is sitting in my room ready to be installed tomorrow morning!

CRP does such a nice job cleaning these bad boys up.

Those 45mm 8 blade turbines are looking mean.

What a monster of a compressor wheel 43mm/56mm

 

I don't know if I would install them or build display stands for them. They look good! As does the truck

 

Right? Thanks man, beautiful truck deserves beautiful turbos. I just wish they were top mount or something so they could be seen better.

 

Swap in progress! I swear the worst part is draining the coolant. What a mess!

 

They’re installed. Started datalogging today. Some interesting results for sure. They are much louder and the turbines are louder too. Very happy, can’t wait till the truck is dialed.

 

You're an animal.

 

Uhh what do you mean?

 

Lol
That's even more proof. You don't know.

You unbox turbos and post pictures.
The next post, literally hours later, they are installed.

Impressive

 

Lol, well, can you say I was excited?

I did the install in 6 hours. Started at 6 am and finished at 12pm. Then I had to clean up all the tools etc and start the truck, datalog etc, but the install was 6 hours.

 

I rest my case.

I envy the youth and vigor

 

dude, dude, I'm jealous!

 

Little turbo install tip.

Hook up the oil drain line first, then pour some new motor oil into the inlet on the top of the turbo core and fill it up full. It protects agains potential damage to the shaft and bearings. But I suppose if you make sure to flood the truck before you start it that would also work. I did both.

 

Here’s a video for you guys! Videos just don’t do it justice for how good these sound.

 

Oh, and I forgot to post this pic.

Here’s a log with the stage 4s on the Unleashed tune. This is just a base tune that Torrie made.

Yellow is boost, brown is wastegate duty, and army green is rpm.

Right where the boost is the highest is 13.48psi

At the highest peak of rpm (5000rpm) boost is only 6.5psi.

Very conservative right now for sure. You can see as rpm increased, boost decreased, and the wastegate increased. It was opening wider and wider all the way to redline.

 

Little update, on my way to work I gave her a little throttle (more than a little) and it pumped out 31lb/min with 11-12 psi. On my stock turbos it took 19 psi to have 31lb/min and on the stage 2s it took 16 psi. Pretty amazing. Wonder what they’ll do with 21 or 22 psi.

 

Thats very respectable

 

WOT boost is like 9.5 psi right now, and I’m getting 32-33 lb/min. That’s just nuts.

 

What is the lag like?

Relative to stock?
To Stage 2’s?

 

^ what he said

 

You guys aren't experiencing Turbo lag.
I mean I guess you are "technically" 🤪

I'm old. Turbo lag was a real thing.

The Ecoboost doesn't have it. I'm just saying.

 

You guys aren't experiencing Turbo lag.
I mean I guess you are "technically" 🤪

I'm old. Turbo lag was a real thing.

The Ecoboost doesn't have it. I'm just saying.

Yeah I know. The old power strokes were horrible I’m told.

 

You guys aren't experiencing Turbo lag.
I mean I guess you are "technically" [emoji2957]

I'm old. Turbo lag was a real thing.

The Ecoboost doesn't have it. I'm just saying.

In my high school years we had Mitsubishi Eclipses (Eagle Talons), Nissan 300z Turbos, and Subaru WRX’s were just coming onto the scene.

I was lucky enough to have friends with each and let me drive them.

Yup, THAT was turbo lag. But the lag is what made it comically exciting as a kid!!

Nothing…. Nothing…. Nothing…
Whoa….. too much… TOO MUCH!!!
[emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

In my high school years we had Mitsubishi Eclipses (Eagle Talons), Nissan 300z Turbos, and Subaru WRX’s were just coming onto the scene.

I was lucky enough to have friends with each and let me drive them.

Yup, THAT was turbo lag. But the lag is what made it comically exciting as a kid!!

Nothing…. Nothing…. Nothing…
Whoa….. too much… TOO MUCH!!!
[emoji1787][emoji1787]

Man,I miss my 89 conquest TSI and 91 Dodge Stealth Turbo,,,, Lol you brought back some crazy memories, Then I ended up with a Grand National....... thought I was IT ,,,,,,, MAN THE CAR THAT GOT AWAY..... I should have never sold that car......

 

^^^^ exactly

My first Turbo was a 1984 SVO Mustang.
We were just coming out of the post-muscle-car regulation purgatory that had the Chevrolet Corvette capped at 180HP.

Suddenly, the awakening of the sleeping giant: FUN to drive

You described that flavor of the new version of fun perfectly.

 

^^^^ exactly

My first Turbo was a 1984 SVO Mustang.
We were just coming out of the post-muscle-car regulation purgatory that had the Chevrolet Corvette capped at 180HP.

Suddenly, the awakening of the sleeping giant: FUN to drive

You described that flavor of the new version of fun perfectly.

I wonder how accurate that 175 horsepower rating was? Seemed like Ford forgot to count a handful of ponies on that 2.3.