He sent me some photos of the turbines. On the left is stock turbine.

 

@full-race geoff You were curious, so come check this stuff out. Pictures are above.

 

So I’m kinda concerned about spool, but then I realized something.

This is the same turbine and the same turbine size as I had on my 2.7 on the turbos from Turbobay, and they spooled slowly, although after tuning it was much better.

But, that was a 2.7, and this time I have a 3.5L

Also, the setup I had on my 2.7 was a much bigger compressor wheel, 50/65mm

On the turbos coming for my 3.5, it’s a 46.5/56mm, essentially the same size as the CRP Stage 4s. So I’m thinking spool won’t be too horrible, probably not as bad as my 2.7 was, but probably a little slower than the stage 4s. I’m ok with that. The setup on my 2.7 was sadly too laggy, boost wasn’t coming in solid till 4500 or so.

 

Look what showed up today… guess I know what I’m doing this weekend. Need to pick up some coolant, and then I’ll be ready for this project! Can’t wait to see how they spool

 

Very cool.

Pleasr keep us all informed how everything goes.

 

I will say, this is the same turbine and the same diameter as I had in my huge turbos that were on my 2.7L

But it’s funny because in photos it doesn’t look as big as it does in person, and the one in my 2.7L turbos looked bigger but it was because the turbine housing was smaller and so it just looked bigger inside there.

 

The swap begins

I measured the donut gasket that replaced the 2011-2020 turbo adapters and its opening is 73mm. @motorhead1991 said the oem turbo adapters are 60mm opening. So this donut is much larger, and to be honest, couldn’t be any bigger because it sits flush with the inside of the turbo.

 

Wow, what a night it’s been. It’s 11:30pm and I’m done for the night. I got the passenger side turbo installed so that’s good. But, I had to grind off one of the turbo bolts because it was too tight, I snapped a socket trying to remove it and eventually the bolt was too rounded over. So i just ground it off. I hope the other side isnt that bad. Also was fighting with those dang coolant lines, and the oil drain line. Good grief what a pain. This is the last time I’m removing the turbos on this truck.

 

...This is the last time I’m removing the turbos on this truck.

Famous last words.

 

Here’s a good photo comparing 45mm stage 4 turbine and 50mm Turbobay turbine

 

Sometimes I don't take the "Disconnect the negative battery cable" step as seriously as I should.
Thank you for the reminder!

Looking forward to your impressions!!!

 

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZSNAP! KM

 

It's so easy to do though on my 2022 and 2023 Fords. That 10mm nut on the current factory clamps works so much better than the old school battery post clamps.

 

🌝You just made me $20. I'm not so old as to not be able to remember the way you feel about speed and HP. Oh yeah, it's about improving fuel economy or extending engine life, right?




I'm kidding about the $20, @Boatwaco wanted my side of the bet too.

 

Yeah yeah yeah, that’s what it’s about. Haha darn, I would have been happy if you got 20$.

 

Matt, you are the go to guy on turbos! I can not think of anyone with more experience on different stages and brands for Ecoboost applications. KM

 

This is true huh, well, I’m happy to be of service.

 

I was rooting for the underdog!

 

Matt, how is the spooling and response with the TurboBay huffers installed? KM

 

They spool pretty darn fast. I’d say just as fast if not maybe faster than the stage 4s. It’s too hard to tell, but that says they aren’t much slower for sure.

 

A result of the multi blade turbine wheels? KM

 

That’s my guess. What’s interesting is that Adam said they don’t flow anything more than the Stage 4 CRPs. He said they were no better and no worse. That didn’t really surprise me. CRPs turbines are superior, the classic 8 blade and 9 blade designs that ford uses, Garrett uses, and big oem companies use are the best design out there for this platform.

 

How much more power are you making than stock. Lookigto do similar mods in future. Thanks

 

I don’t know how much power, but stock turbos on stock tune flowed 45 lb/min. Now I’m at 69 lb/min on the big turbos.

 

Just ordered this

 

Sweet!

 

Are you getting the downpipes to go with?

 

Here’s the plan. I miss that equal length sound that my old truck had. I emailed Nathan at Fairway ford parts and asked him if that oem raptor Trombone was still backordered. He said lead time was 2 business days. So I ordered it. Once it comes I’ll measure between the two pipes and then I want to get a y pipe so I can go down to a single exhaust and use my current exhaust setup. CVF has promised me the first raptor downpipes off production line in a month or two.

 

Turbo set in the middle is mine! This is at CRPs shop, picture sent from Andrew. They just have to swap tooling and mill the turbine housings.

 

Stage 5s are completed. Andrew will ship them tomorrow or Tuesday.

So here’s the idea on exhaust.
So CVF is gonna send me downpipes eventually, hopefully soon. They said I’d get the first set off production line. They’re gonna be raptor downpipes, so I’ll connect this trombone loop which I ordered and is shipping to my house currently, up to the CVF downpipes. I don’t want to spend another 1200$ on an exhaust that only gets me over the axle (SPD HX Muffler). I also don’t like the look of dual exhaust without the bumper cutouts. Definitely want to stay single, but how do I do single and also have the trombone sound? Well you may remember how my 2.7 sounded with a looped downpipe and a single exhaust. It was the sound I was going for. Basically if the trombone loop happens before the downpipe y’s together, no matter what the exhaust does after that, it will have the equal length signature sound. So my plan is to y down to my single Corsa exhaust after the trombone loop with something like pictured below.

 

Also I’m going to mess with the fake engine noise in Forscan today, I might even do a video on it if it works. @snakebitten gave me some awesome info on where to find it and the Forscan database spreadsheet someone kindly made.

 

The top most set of numbers, 727-01-01, if you look to the right you see four numbers, 0082. I changed the first number 0, at the left of those four numbers to a 1, which should enable the sound.

Once I changed it, it now says 1092 for those four numbers now

gonna go drive it and see if anything changed.