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Back to living on the edge I like it! lol
Ohhh the addiction is so real, I've definitely been there, with other things.

At least now you know to have extra $$ on hand if warranty is denied again!!

I'm excited to see how this new adventure goes, hoping it's with no bumps in the road! 🤞🏻

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Only reason I’m doing it is because no one can get the truck where I want it. When I first got the truck I said I wanted a 91 octane tune and I’d call it good. Well, I did that, but the tune only added 20hp, and I added the bigger turbos because CRP gave me a deal. Then we still couldn’t get the tune where I wanted it. Finally we cracked into the 50 lb/min range but boost was spiking to 22 and falling hard at redline. So I decided to go with an unlocked ECU and be done with chasing the hidden boost limit that’s on the top end.
 
Only reason I’m doing it is because no one can get the truck where I want it. When I first got the truck I said I wanted a 91 octane tune and I’d call it good. Well, I did that, but the tune only added 20hp, and I added the bigger turbos because CRP gave me a deal. Then we still couldn’t get the tune where I wanted it. Finally we cracked into the 50 lb/min range but boost was spiking to 22 and falling hard at redline. So I decided to go with an unlocked ECU and be done with chasing the hidden boost limit that’s on the top end.
Oh I hear you man! I know all too well the good old "snowball effect" haha
There will always be something. 🏁

Wow… Just realized my other comment got edited even though I edited it to be PG.
 
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Please forgive my lack of knowledge, but what does utilizing a seperate unlocked ECM give you that tuning the existing ECM prevents?

I understand the potential for stealthier warranty work. But from a tuning standpoint....

... Are there certain features or "levers" available with this new ECM that can't be touched in the existing?
 
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Please forgive my lack of knowledge, but what does utilizing a seperate unlocked ECM give you that tuning the existing ECM prevents?

I understand the potential for stealthier warranty work. But from a tuning standpoint....

... Are there certain features or "levers" available with this new ECM that can't be touched in the existing?
That is a question for Adam, not me. I think it allows everything to be manipulated completely by HP tuners software since HP cannot tune an existing ECU. Kinda like Cobb, except Cobb is way dumber
 
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Alright guys here’s the scoop.

Got the new ECU reprogrammed with FDRS, Adam did that remotely for me. Then got the truck running. I learned a lot watching him do things mysteriously on the little tablet. My truck was running terrible and he fixed it and set it all up. Was really cool to watch.

Then I had to buy 4 credits which is 200$ 😬 so I can tune the truck with HP tuners. Then I loaded the baseline tune and it made 52 lb/min on 15.7 psi of boost. Then I loaded the next tune and it made 60.2 lb/min with 17.5 psi, and, Adam said we have a lot more turbo left. Adam wants to shoot for 65 lb/min. The stock turbos can flow 60lb/min, so asking 65 from these doesn’t seem like a tall order.

We’ll see what it does. I’m shooting for 12.5 1/4 mile. That’s the goal.
 
Alright guys here’s the scoop.

Got the new ECU reprogrammed with FDRS, Adam did that remotely for me. Then got the truck running. I learned a lot watching him do things mysteriously on the little tablet. My truck was running terrible and he fixed it and set it all up. Was really cool to watch.

Then I had to buy 4 credits which is 200$ 😬 so I can tune the truck with HP tuners. Then I loaded the baseline tune and it made 52 lb/min on 15.7 psi of boost. Then I loaded the next tune and it made 60.2 lb/min with 17.5 psi, and, Adam said we have a lot more turbo left. Adam wants to shoot for 65 lb/min. The stock turbos can flow 60lb/min, so asking 65 from these doesn’t seem like a tall order.

We’ll see what it does. I’m shooting for 12.5 1/4 mile. That’s the goal.

I think your goal is conservative and very achievable. In fact, if it doesn't go 12.0s, maybe even high 11s, when it gets sorted out, I will be shocked.
 
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I think your goal is conservative and very achievable. In fact, if it doesn't go 12.0s, maybe even high 11s, when it gets sorted out, I will be shocked.
Well, I hope it doesn’t go that fast on 91 octane. If it does I’m asking Adam to turn it down. 12.5 is a conservative number, but it’s still fast enough to give people a fun ride!
 
Let's go! I bet you do see lower 12's at worst!

The new goal posts:
Car & Driver just got 4.2 0-60 + 12.8 @ 106mph in the quarter for the new Ram 1500 3.0 High Output.
And that was in the super fat Limited Long Bed 4x4 configuration weighing in just a hair under 6k lbs.

Granted that was at sea level, so I'm really interested in what it would do at our elevation - to see how much turbo overhead Ram baked in. My guess is absolutely none.

540hp from 3.0 liters courtesy of 28psi.

If you hit 65 lb/min that's 100 more hp AND at least 500 fewer lbs to motivate.

For context BMW has been honing their 3.0 inline six for well over a decade now, and offers only 523 hp in their high test M3/4 Competition spec (though admittedly everyone knows the Crank numbers are closer to 600hp).
 
Let's go! I bet you do see lower 12's at worst!

The new goal posts:
Car & Driver just got 4.2 0-60 + 12.8 @ 106mph in the quarter for the new Ram 1500 3.0 High Output.
And that was in the super fat Limited Long Bed 4x4 configuration weighing in just a hair under 6k lbs.

Granted that was at sea level, so I'm really interested in what it would do at our elevation - to see how much turbo overhead Ram baked in. My guess is absolutely none.

540hp from 3.0 liters courtesy of 28psi.

If you hit 65 lb/min that's 100 more hp AND at least 500 fewer lbs to motivate.

For context BMW has been honing their 3.0 inline six for well over a decade now, and offers only 523 hp in their high test M3/4 Competition spec (though admittedly everyone knows the Crank numbers are closer to 600hp).
Will be interesting........ 91 octane to be at 12.5 or even better at 7000 ft...... here are a lot hurdles to get over and to do it with some kind of safety parameters

elevation and all the tuning tweaks that come with it
91 octane - limited to timing and detonation protection in a direct injection platform
 
How ever it turns out I hope you get a big share of fun and satisfaction out of your project!, that is more than a time slip! KM
 
Discussion starter · #436 ·
Hit almost 66 lb/min today! She’s flowing lots of air that’s for sure!
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Any hiccups of trouble? KM
 
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Any hiccups of trouble? KM
Nope. In this pull boost kinda fell out a bit up top but Adam said he fixed it in the next revision which I haven’t ran yet.
it made 66 lb/min at 5960 rpm, and then fell to 59 lb/min because boost fell to 17 at 6200 rpms. So, bringing 20 psi to 6200 rpm might yield almost 70 lb/min
 
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