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Gotta clean em out from time to time. KM

PS: Edited my post to correct "god sized dollop", I meant large just not on that scale! km
 
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From my research, this is the oil used in the Ford GT. If ford specs this for the 650hp GT, then why not use it in my 600hp f150?
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While I don't think it will ever be common to see a GT 3.5 Ecoboost with 150,000 miles on it, I do think it's a fair question! 😁

Would love to know what specific differences there might be in the 2 versions of the engine that might make the viscosity spec a meaningful controversy?
 
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While I don't think it will ever be common to see a GT 3.5 Ecoboost with 150,000 miles on it, I do think it's a fair question! 😁

Would love to know what specific differences there might be in the 2 versions of the engine that might make the viscosity spec a meaningful controversy?
Well that’s what I’d love to know. Would it be dangerous to run that oil in my truck?
 
While I don't think it will ever be common to see a GT 3.5 Ecoboost with 150,000 miles on it, I do think it's a fair question! 😁

Would love to know what specific differences there might be in the 2 versions of the engine that might make the viscosity spec a meaningful controversy?
Well that’s what I’d love to know. Would it be dangerous to run that oil in my truck?
Probably not. What are the guys running 1000 hp 3.5’s running?
 
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Is that simply due more to the increased likelihood that the GT might sustain high RPM, high power output for sustained periods of time, like on a track (with turns)?

And not so much the power output itself?

This is my understanding of the higher numeric “-50” in the spec.

All theory anyway, since it will probably be a number of years before any EcoBoost-powered GT turns a 4th digit on it’s odometer.
 
Here goes the build thread... Oil thread incoming 😆.

If I had to guess, the GT 3.5 may have been speced with larger bearing clearances than your F150 3.5. A good engine shop would know.
 
Doing some research, its a oil weight thing......... DNA seems to be similar to its sister that is 30! But you know me. I will did into this as the curiosity has been activated!
 
Thus my mental & emotional affinity for 0-40 when I see that it's 80F outside while I'm still in my jammies and pulling my first shot of espresso.

In other words, it's going to be HOT all day!

My amateur viscosity rule is I can safely use an oil with the same or lower first number AND a same or higher second number than the spec'd oil.

0-40 is a "safe" substitute for 5-30, is my point.
In fact, the way I understand it is that the
0W-40 is pretty much operating at the same viscosity as 5W-30 except during colder than normal winter mornings (rare in my parts), or hotter than normal oil temperatures in the Texas summer heat and the ICE is off during EV or generator mode in the Powerboost.

ICE off is no waterpump circulating coolant, and no fresh air flushing out the cold side intake tract. Both result in heat soak increase before next ICE start.
 
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Doing some research, its a oil weight thing......... DNA seems to be similar to its sister that is 30! But you know me. I will did into this as the curiosity has been activated!
My buddy Jake with the thousand horsepower 3.5 is starting to run liquimoly oil
 
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Now I’m wanting to figure out how to make a windage tray and more baffling in the 3.5 Ecoboost oil pan. If that was possible, we wouldn’t get oil pressure dip during launch.
 
Now I’m wanting to figure out how to make a windage tray and more baffling in the 3.5 Ecoboost oil pan. If that was possible, we wouldn’t get oil pressure dip during launch.
Dry sump 😉
 
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Have you rigged up an oil pressure gauge? There will be a curve to pressure as these use a variable volume pump. Is there a problem with oil starvation? KM
 
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Have you rigged up an oil pressure gauge? There will be a curve to pressure as these use a variable volume pump. Is there a problem with oil starvation? KM
I have an oil pressure channel on hp tuners. The main concern is oil pressure dip on launch. But everyone else has it too, I don’t think a handful of launches will cause a failure.
 
Have any actual figures on the drop?

A problem with F150 Ecoboost is the lack of hard parts made for them. An Accusump may work in this situation, but they come with a bunch of challenges. KM
 
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Have any actual figures on the drop?

A problem with F150 Ecoboost is the lack of hard parts made for them. An Accusump may work in this situation, but they come with a bunch of challenges. KM
I don’t… not yet anyway, but apparently extending the oil pickup tube helps.
 
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Still getting a lot of spark blowout… so I’m not sure what the deal is… I’m on oem plugs gapped to .024
 
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