I think I read somewhere a damaged or disconnected temp sensor will go to instant high temp. Could be completely wrong though.

 

Well, nothing is disconnected

 

Well, the truck runs now flawlessly. That’s all I will say till you guys see the video.

 

Which one? We've kinda been talking about both in this thread....

 

Need to post an update.

I ceramic coated the whole truck today and needless to say it is so gorgeous. I love the Rapid Red Metallic.

Truck has been getting 26mpg on the highway on a 200 mile trip. I changed the spark plugs on her and will do the oil soon as I’m approaching the second change.

I’ve got a ford racing filter for it which I will start using instead of the oem filter.

I also have been running Brett’s tune but took it off now so I could datalog stock tune for him at the different elevation once I move again.

I was looking at random parts this evening and saw the 2021+ pistons are different and way more expensive than the 2.7L pistons. Fascinating to say the least. The 2.7 pistons are like 57$. The 2018 raptor piston is 101$ which is the high output version. Very interesting to say the least

 

Impressive MPG, and an A+ for the Ford Racing Filter

 

That's why I didn't complain too much when EMS charged $1850 for a set of custom, coated Mahle pistons with rings and pins. Still cheaper than OEM. What I don't get is that an assembled, OEM shortblock from Ford is around $1700-1800. Complete with block, crank, rods, pistons, rings, bearings. But, if I buy the pistons by themselves separately, they are $2100!!!!

 

I do understand but that has been the vehicle manufacture's stance as long as I have known. My 68 Z28 was an expensive option even then and beyond the suspension it upped the engine from the standard 327 2barrel 210 hp motor with cast innards to a 302 with all forged innards and accompanying parts 290 hp advertised but really closer to 425. Another potential reason is the quicker cylinder wear from forged pistons. The cost ratio from stock cast to forged has stayed nearly the same since for both factory and aftermarket parts. KM

 

Just because Ford Parts lists it as an expensive item, does not mean that is worth as much.

99% of the time it is because of short supply that the price is increased. Price will actually decrease over time as manufacturing becomes more efficient. But will skyrocket again once that part is no longer used in production.

 

This is true, and I was actually thinking about that. However I do believe the ST pistons are forged. Thats why they do cost a bit more whether the price is accurate or not.

 

“We’re sinking! We’re sinking!”

“What are you sinking about?”

I’ll tell you what I’m sinking about, I’m sinking about these!

Remember the comment “I won’t do bigger turbos or anything…”

 

Humor!!! I get it, like yer pooch! KM

 

Not my dog. Its a popular picture people use in memes lol

 

He's resorted to nonverbal answers. The struggle in his head is that great right now 🤣🤣

 

Was talking to Full Race Geoff about a stage 2 kit they’re developing with better housings than stock turbos, so that sounds a lot more intriguing

 

I thought you were going to leave this new truck alone.

 

I wasn’t going to. But when I considered how much money I’d spend getting a separate truck to drive and modify, that idea went out the window.
I really just want bigger turbos for the sound, not the power. Also I need YouTube content and that will give me a lot. This time around is different because I may actually have some partnerships in building a short block for the truck good for 1500hp. But we’ll see. The larger turbos does not mean I will be doing 600hp or anything. When I say I don’t want to blow this truck up I mean that. Getting larger turbos does not mean I am going to blow it up. I just can’t help myself and I just love working on these trucks.

 

Well, I ordered a set of turbos from EBay! Can’t wait to check out the turbos and see how different they are. Will send them off to CRP

 

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/threads/matt%E2%80%99s-2-7-ecobeast.83164/page-82

Post 1629. Not quite 3 months 🤣🤣🤣

 

You think I care? 😁🤣

 

I'm glad to see you doing this - I too live vicariously through your build(s)!

 

Well before you guys get your pants all wound up, I will say, I do NOT want to blow this truck up. We will not be pushing much power from the turbos. Like I said, it’s just for sound and YouTube content. Plus I feel like I have to get into the trucks engine bay to some degree or it doesn’t feel like my truck.

 

Guys I’m super stoked about this. I took a peek in my 3.5 engine and she is not stained at all! Looks gorgeous. She’s gonna get 3000 mile oil changes the rest of her life and will look just like my 2.7 did at 100k

 

This was your 2.7 at 100k 😂

 

Broken but CLEAN!

Amazing what good maintenance looks like for the engine innards. Modern oils and fuels do a lot! KM

 

Who are you Kidding? You will still be pushing the gas pedal.

 

True, but only at just above stock power levels.

 

I just realized my white 2.7 truck is running on stock tune with the raptor in tank pump haha. It runs great with it. I guess now we know the raptor pump will work on the stock 2.7 tune.

 

Good for 60hp bro

 

Some super cool stuff in the works. I messaged Jason at CVF a bunch today. He was asking me a bunch of questions etc.

I am going to be testing their inlet tubes soon and also gonna do a set of raptor downpipes, trombone loop and exhaust from them as well. Can’t wait to see it all put together. This is why I kept myself from getting a different exhaust because I knew i wanted the trombone exhaust, after having that on my 2.7 there is no turning back.

 

Probably won’t do the turbos and instead do the exhaust from CVF to be honest.

 

Now that sounds like a plan

 

Welp, these used turbos are gorgeous. I did some unofficial measurements and inducer is 41.2mm and exducer is 53.9mm I am super confident on the inducer measurement I took, so if that is the case then they have gotten a tad larger over the 2018-2020 but not enough to make a huge difference.

 

if that is the case then they have gotten a tad larger over the 2018-2020 but not enough to make a huge difference.

So slight size difference & clearly a housing design differences.
Changes like this are not cheap to make, so it just boggles my mind wanting to know the reason Ford made the change.
The engineering, the re-tooling the supplier, the testing and validation.
There must be a reason, some improvement sought or deficiency avoided.

WHAT IS IT, FORD???

 

Matt went into the improvement with more detail in his Youtube video, electronic wastegate with stronger arms, relief ports in the pressure side to lessen pressure surging, elimination of the exhaust side adapters, possibly lighter weight that may lengthen the exhaust manifold life and the mounting studs. KM

 

Matt went into the improvement with more detail in his Youtube video, electronic wastegate with stronger arms, relief ports in the pressure side to lessen pressure surging, elimination of the exhaust side adapters, possibly lighter weight that may lengthen the exhaust manifold life and the mounting studs. KM

I believe 18-20 had the surge ring too, I’m not sure if it looked the same though. But, it’s obvious they seemed to have redesigned the exhaust side mainly to sit closer to the engine perhaps helping the exhaust manifold warping issue?

 

dang, nice grab!!!!!!

 

Well, I couldn’t help myself. Since CVF is helping out exhaust wise and such for free, I pulled the trigger on Stage 3 upgrade from CRP

The goal of that purchase is
1. to dig into the truck and make videos on it, seeing any differences I can.
2. for the sound! Cuz who doesn’t love it
3. Cuz every build needs something cool
4. Not to make 600hp. This will be 500hp at the most. Basically shooting for 450 wheel because that’s what Brett’s ran forever.
5. to get content for YouTube

Can’t wait to hear these spooly bois. Anyway, CVF sent inlet tubes yesterday so we’ll be installing those bad units soon.

 

My 17 seen 16 psi max on a hard pull. GH tuning has that up to about 18. Probably less taxing on the cooling system that way!

 

The stock tune 2022, according to the tattle tail, appears to be ~17psi?

 

Boost is always all over the place. I’ve seen 17 on my 2022 as well, but in the datalogs what happens is boost ramps instantly to 14-17 psi somewhere in there but by the time rpm hits 5800 or wherever it shifts, boost has fallen to 6 psi. And ford does that so that it doesn’t make too much power up there. With Brett’s tune, he didn’t increase max boost, he just let it keep boost around 10-11 psi at redline instead of 6 psi and it made another 50hp up there

 

I ordered everything I need for the turbo swap. Gaskets, studs etc.

I could not find the exhaust donut gasket that goes between the turbo and the downpipe like the 2.7 has. I thought maybe the 2.7 one was the same for the 3.5 but on fairway ford parts it only lists the 2.7. So I’m not sure if the 3.5 one is larger or what. I’ll just reused the gasket. Most of the time it isn’t in bad shape and can be reused easily.

I did see that the “catalytic converter stud” which is what ford calls it, where the downpipe connects to, it screws into the turbo. It’s the same exact stud now between 3.5 and 2.7. So you can use 2.7 studs on the 3.5 no problem. I have two extra 2.7 studs but I ordered 4 new ones just in case.

I’m pretty much all ready to go with the swap. Need to pick up some coolant as I’ll lose probably a gallon or so. But I might just save it, that’s what ive always done. Save it and reuse it.