Hello, does this kit require any drilling into the passenger side inlet tube? I'd like to be able to change everything back to stock when I take the truck to the dealer. Been contemplating the other dual valve catch cans from other manufacturers, but am hesitant to drill a hole in my inlet tube. Also, will this kit work on a 2017 2.7? What's the price?We actually have an update on the 2.7L kit! Check it out below and let me know what you think!
Bye-Bye Blow-By — Catch Can R&D, Part 4: Production
Patience is a virtue, but sometimes, it’s also a necessity. Progress often moves at its own pace in science and engineering, and all you can do is sit back and wait for a result. In the case of our 2015-16 2.7L EcoBoost catch can, results have been a long time coming.
If you’ve been following along with this project since the beginning, we hope you’ve had a great Labor Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas (or Festivus), New Year, birthday, Memorial Day, 4th of July…I think you get the point. It’s been a while. In that time, we’ve battled check engine lights and overflowing catch cans with our 3.5L kit. What was once a humble kit to fit all 2015-16 EcoBoost trucks, has become two kits, a brand-new catch can, three brackets and two sets of lines. All the while, our 2.7L kit was staying the course as planned.
Unlike the 3.5L, our 2.7L truck had no issues with check engine lights or overfilling cans. Back in September of last year we pulled the catch can and were surprised to find only about 11 ml of total accumulation in both cans, with about 10 ml collecting in the CCV side can. While that was only 1/5th the amount that the 3.5L cans had collected, it was more than enough to say that the catch can was working.
Since that initial content collection, all eyes have been on our 3.5L kit to solve the issues and move forward. The story of our 2.7L kit was not over, however. Our initial content for this kit was collected in the summer months of 2016, when fuel is higher quality and warmer temperatures usually mean less crankcase condensation and less blow-by on cold startup. We typically see significantly more blow-by in colder climates, so we wanted to test the 2.7L again through the winter to be sure it wouldn’t have the same issue as the 3.5L and require a larger can.
We monitored the can throughout the winter, establishing an average duration between. In early spring, after another 1,000 miles between emptying, we measured the content in the cans again. The smell of fuel and oil rising off the cans translated into pitch-black blow-by flowing into ready beakers. The emptying process took about twice as long this time and revealed a similar ratio of blow-by. Again, the CCV side yielded much more than the PCV side, at about 20 ml and 5 ml respectively. While it was still a far cry from the 50 ml the 3.5L kit caught the previous summer, 25 ml is more than enough to cause carbon buildup on the back of valves in a direct-injected engine.
With the test complete, we could move forward with production, including product sampling. So, while the blog focused on the 3.5L, our 2.7L production sample was quietly being made. Once the kinks with the 3.5L kit had been worked out, the 2.7L production sample was ready and waiting to be installed. Luckily, we already had a 2.7L in the shop, so there was no waiting for a volunteer truck.
Jason started installing the catch can kit, with Fletcher, our videographer, by his side to shoot the install video. By the time I was able to put a memory card in my camera, the catch can kit was almost installed. The last line clicked onto the can and our final test fit was complete. In the end, our perseverance paid off and now yours will too. This kit will be going into pre-sale soon, so with just a little more patience, you’ll be able to buy this kit at a deep discount. Keep an eye out for the pre-sale announcement as well as the next update on the 3.5L kit. As always, feel free to let us know if you have any questions.
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If that's what holds you back, the inlet tube is about $40.Hello, does this kit require any drilling into the passenger side inlet tube? I'd like to be able to change everything back to stock when I take the truck to the dealer. Been contemplating the other dual valve catch cans from other manufacturers, but am hesitant to drill a hole in my inlet tube. Also, will this kit work on a 2017 2.7? What's the price?
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Thank you for the support! It's great to hear!Yes me too! Please hurry!! Came from the diesel world, had a few mishimoto parts, loved them... why I am waiting for the 3.5L from you all!!
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you! That was originally the plan for these kits, but due to the large amount of blow-by caught in the 3.5L kit and the issue with the sensor, we weren't able to keep that plan. We could potentially offer the larger can setup for the 2.7L, but from our test results, it would add a large cost to the kit that wouldn't really benefit you all.I don't see why Mishi can't just offer the same dual can setup for all ecoboosts. Only the hoses and/or mounting brackets should differ.
While we agree that we want the kit to be as effective as possible, we also want it to be direct-fit and not require permanent modification to any other part of the car. From the results of the 3.5L can, we found that the amount of vacuum generated at the manifold was more than sufficient to pull blow-by out of the system. Perhaps in the future we could utilize our 3-port can to draw vacuum from the pre-turbo side of the system. I'll pass your interest and concerns on to the team! Thank you for your feedback!I have a question for you @Mishimoto.
Both Rx/McNally and UPR seem to have found it necessary to pull from the passenger side inlet pipe also for vacuum, vs just the factory bung in the driver's side. It does not appear to me that your kit is going to be like that.
While I'm all for the least intrusive install possible, I do want it to be the most effective it can be. It stands to reason to me that pulling more vacuum is going to help PULL more crud out of the motor, and lower crankcase pressures also. Thoughts?
As mentioned above, this kit does not require drilling into the inlet pipes and requires no other modification to the vehicle. You should have no issues swapping this kit back to stock in the future.Hello, does this kit require any drilling into the passenger side inlet tube? I'd like to be able to change everything back to stock when I take the truck to the dealer. Been contemplating the other dual valve catch cans from other manufacturers, but am hesitant to drill a hole in my inlet tube. Also, will this kit work on a 2017 2.7? What's the price?
Sorry, I completely forgot to answer those two questions! This kit will fit the 2017 2.7L. We're shooting for release by the end of February of 2018 with a discounted pre-sale shortly before that. Final pricing hasn't been determined but once the pre-sale goes live we'll be able to get that to you.Steve, thanks for the response. When will the 2.7 kit be available & what's the price?
Sure you don't NEED to. But, as stated, rx and upr both seem to think that, for best performance from the kit, drilling the passenger side pipe is best. That's why.why is drilling still brought up. Drilling it for extra pull for the can. you dont need to drill for any kit.
Yes but you can install the kit without drilling is what im stating. People ase asking if this kit you wont need to, you dont have to on any kit for it to work. I drilled mine, you run a T off it to driver side factory nipple and then to can, instead of doing that you just run hose from driver directly over. It's you choice to drill or not, it is not mandatory to set it up.Sure you don't NEED to. But, as stated, rx and upr both seem to think that, for best performance from the kit, drilling the passenger side pipe is best. That's why.
I understand why it's done. I asked Mishimoto to explain their thoughts on the matter.
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Thank you! We're shooting to release the 3.5L kit mid-spring of this year with a discounted pre-sale shortly before that.I like the look of the can's, placement, and love how much work you have invested into this. I would love to try this out on my 2015 F150 ecoboost!!! When will the 3.5L be available?
Thanks for reaching out! We're still finishing up development of these two kits, so we're not looking for reviews quite yet. However, when we're closer to launch, I'll keep you in mind. you can also reach out to our sponsorship department at [email protected] and let them know what you're looking to do, from there they will coordinate with our product team to get everything setup.
Link gives me this.Hey everybody,
We're excited to announce that our 2.7L EcoBoost Catch Can is now available on pre-sale! Check it out below!
FORD F-150 2.7L ECOBOOST BAFFLED OIL CATCH CAN, 2015-2017 PRE-SALE
Sale Price: $358.95
Estimated Ship Date: June 2018
- Direct fit for 2015–2017 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost
- Dual-can setup captures blow-by from both the PCV and CCV systems
- CCV side accommodates factory pressure sensor for CEL-free running
- In-line check valve prevents can from being pressurized under boost.
- Application-specific lines fit with stock engine cover
- 3mm thick steel bracket won’t bend, rattle, or break under heavy abuse
- Includes factory quick-disconnect fittings
- Filters and cans are fully serviceable
- Mishimoto Lifetime Warranty
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We're aiming to have the pre-sale for the 3.5L kit start in about a month with a launch date about a month after that.Awesome. Congrats! Any update on the 3.5L kit...?
Try it now. Our site was under maintenance for a few minutes yesterday but it should be back up now.Link gives me this.
Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using TapatalkWe're aiming to have the pre-sale for the 3.5L kit start in about a month with a launch date about a month after that.
Try it now. Our site was under maintenance for a few minutes yesterday but it should be back up now.