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Hey everybody!

Mishimoto is in the process of developing a radiator to fit all 2015+ 2.7L EcoBoost, 3.5L EcoBoost, and 5.0L V8 F-150s, including the Raptor ;) Check out our first installment of our engineering blog below and let us know what you think!

-Steve


Everyday Hercules — Aluminum Radiator R&D, Part 1: Stock Review

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Like the Roman hero Hercules, the 2015+ F-150 is capable of other-worldly feats. From the street to the jobsite, and even the dunes or the track, there’s little that the F-150 can’t conquer. With three available engines producing over 350 lb. ft. of torque, the 2015+ F-150 could probably stop the rotation of the earth. Even with all that power, many of the F-150’s on the road will never see Moab or drag a 1,000 lb. log up a mountain. But that doesn’t mean your F-150 shouldn’t be your everyday Hercules.

Owning an F-150 should mean being confident that you can tackle any task life throws your way, but that confidence may be shaken if your stock cooling system has seen better days. Hercules is nothing without his strength, and if your F-150 is overheating, all the power in the world means little. That’s why we here at Mishimoto are developing an all-aluminum radiator to keep your 2015+ F-150 going strong.

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The first step in developing our 2015+ F-150 radiator was a familiar one: analyzing the stock part. We needed to know what would stay from the stock design and what would go to make way for stronger components. Our research showed that the 2.7L EcoBoost, 3.5L EcoBoost, and 5.0L V8 shared three common radiators. Our hope was that those three radiators would share features and we could combine those features into one radiator. To find out, we brought in the two light-duty radiators and a brand new 2018 F-150 Raptor with the heavy-duty radiator.

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Our engineer examined each of the radiators and began compiling data for each. With the light-duty radiators finished, he then turned to the Raptor. The Raptor radiator has the thickest core and greatest potential for cooling of all three radiators, but it lacks an in-tank transmission cooler that other models have. If we could improve upon the Raptor rad, while still fitting the light-duty trucks, our radiator would be a significant upgrade over all three.

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We drained the coolant from the Raptor, then carefully removed its grille and everything between us and the rad. Finally, the stock radiator could be pulled out and its features added to our master file. After noting every detail of the Raptor radiator, we compared all three to find out if our plan would work. Luckily for us, all three radiators shared common mounting points and many other features. As we suspected, an in-tank transmission cooler would be needed to allow fitment with various packages, along with mounting locations for different fan shrouds, but our plan was moving forward.

In the next post, we’ll be using the data we collected from the stock radiators to generate a 3D model of our herculean replacement. We’ll also be building a prototype and test-fitting it on our Raptor. Keep an eye out for more updates soon and, as always, feel free to let us know what you think!

Thanks for reading,
-Steve
 
Awesome!

FYI, I believe all 2018’s with the 10 speed have lost the build in transmission cooler and gone to the standalone liquid to liquid cooler under the truck.
 
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Awesome!

FYI, I believe all 2018’s with the 10 speed have lost the build in transmission cooler and gone to the standalone liquid to liquid cooler under the truck.
Thanks! I believe you are correct with the exception of the Raptor which has a front-mounted external cooler. Since this rad will be made to fit all 2.7L, 3.5L EcoBoost and 5.0L from 2015 up, we will be including an in-tank trans cooler to fit the earlier models of each.


This is great news! I will be following anxiously.
Thank you!

-Steve
 
Thanks! I believe you are correct with the exception of the Raptor which has a front-mounted external cooler. Since this rad will be made to fit all 2.7L, 3.5L EcoBoost and 5.0L from 2015 up, we will be including an in-tank trans cooler to fit the earlier models of each.




Thank you!

-Steve
Out of curiosity, does the raptor have a bigger radiator than even a Max-Tow packaged 3.5 Ecoboost regular F150?
 
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Hey everybody,


We have another update on this radiator! Check it out below and let us know what you think!


Thanks,
-Steve


Everyday Hercules – Aluminum Radiator R&D, Part 2: Design & Prototype
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What haven’t I said about Ford’s F-150? It’s reliable, affordable, capable, comfortable, and all the other -ables that you’d want from a truck, except for one. It’s not invulnerable. Like every vehicle, time takes its toll and something’s bound to break. If you’re lucky, you have some time before those tolls hit your F-150’s cooling system, but it’s always a good idea to be prepared. Mishimoto is working on a radiator to allow you to do just that.


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Our last look at the 2015+ F-150 revealed that our radiator needed to replace not one, but three different factory radiators. Our goal was to combine the features of the two light-duty radiators and the heavy-duty Raptor radiator into one even better aluminum radiator. To start that process, we measured all three radiators, making sure to note any mounting locations, then brought in a 2018 Raptor to gather even more data.


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Thank you for the research and development you guys do! This is a truly impressive upgrade for the truck and I am patiently waiting to get mine.

2016 supercrew with a 2.7 ecoboost.
 
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Hey everybody,

Here's the last post as promised! This time we go over our test fit and dyno testing. The radiator performed really well in the modified Raptor, so we look forward to hearing how it works in your trucks. Check it out below and let us know what you think!

Thanks,
-Steve

Everyday Hercules – Aluminum Radiator R&D, Part 3: Production
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As summer begins here in Delaware, it’s quickly becoming the season of trailers with boats, jet skis, and campers filling the roads. Most of those trailers are pulled behind massive, oversized trucks that look like they rolled off the showroom floor yesterday. While there’s nothing wrong with taking pride in your truck and keeping it clean, my favorite thing to see on the road is the F-150 that still has the toolbox in the back and mud on the tires, towing an old aluminum fishing boat. The drivers of the shiny behemoths might scoff at it from a few feet up, but that F-150 has been that driver’s Hercules. You know that truck and its owner have done some work.

Summer is also an opportune time to finish our 2015+ F-150 / 2017+ Raptor radiator. But before we move into the final phase of development, let’s look at how we got here. Our first post in this series focused on the stock radiator. Much like our 2011-2014 F-150 radiator, we found that Ford offered multiple cooling options for the 2015+ F-150 and Raptor. Never ones to take the easy road, we decided to out-cool Fords most efficient radiator found in the 2017+ Raptor and some 3.5L EcoBoost F-150s.


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We started development by measuring the stock radiators and sorting out which features needed to be carried on to our radiator. One of the bigger challenges would be incorporating an in-tank transmission cooler into the larger radiator. To find out if our design was feasible, we then created a prototype radiator using our 3D printers to make true-to-life end tanks. Our fabricator welded together an aluminum frame to act as the radiator core and we had a prototype.


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Our previous post ended with a successful test fit of that prototype and the beginning of our wait for a production sample. With the arrival of spring came that very production sample and the final steps of development.

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Hey everybody,



Just wanted to let you all know that the pre-sale for this radiator has ended. Thank to everybody who ordered, you should be getting shipping information soon!


Thanks again,

-Steve
 
I have 2017 3.5 Gen2 Ecoboost F150 with the max tow package. I have been experiencing high coolant temps while towing in the mountains (Colorado). Has anyone upgraded to this radiator? What kind of improvements, if any, did you see?
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Just wanted to let you guys know i have one in my 2017 truck that has aftermarket turbos and bolt-ons, and fuel system that makes 600+ horsepower.

It keeps the engine exactly at the temp it should be for a 170 thermostat the entire 1/4 mile. It's been a very good purchase for me and worth every penny.
 
I have 2017 3.5 Gen2 Ecoboost F150 with the max tow package. I have been experiencing high coolant temps while towing in the mountains (Colorado). Has anyone upgraded to this radiator? What kind of improvements, if any, did you see?
Thanks
I suggest you go for it and install a stock 2018 thermostat when you do. For some reason Ford put a 195 thermostat in our 2017's and in 2018 they changed it to a 188 thermostat.

You put the lower thermostat along with this radiator and your high coolant temp issues will for sure be gone.
 
I suggest you go for it and install a stock 2018 thermostat when you do. For some reason Ford put a 195 thermostat in our 2017's and in 2018 they changed it to a 188 thermostat.

You put the lower thermostat along with this radiator and your high coolant temp issues will for sure be gone.
This does not always seem to be the case around here. Plenty of guys have upgraded to full race or mish radiators and said all it did was buy them some time before overheating happens while towing.

Look at Blown F150. He has an FR radiator, FR intercooler, Setrab oil cooler and other cooling mods and still hit 253 degrees or something.

Running 11-12 seconds at WOT is way different than pulling a grade with 7000 lbs for 20 minutes straight.
 
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