[MMCdude]

XLT HD / Max Tow sticker...

 

[winchested]

1200 lbs is like the smallest payload I have seen on one of these trucks...

 

[Mitchf150]

I saw a 2012 Platinum that only had #850 payload! Wish I would have thought to take a pic of it...

Mitch

 

[JD Moore]

Going to look at a 2011 FX4 with only 34,000 miles on the weekend. The truck has 3:73 so I assume it ha the Max Tow package. I'm a little nervous about the '11 Ecoboost. Should I expect to change the timing chain at some point? Any other issues on the early EB to be aware of?

 

[winchested]

You should expect to change all of the timing phasers and chains.

 

[JD Moore]

You should expect to change all of the timing phasers and chains.

Did they correct this issue for 2013 and up?

 

[winchested]

Nope any engine upto end of 2015 is susceptible so the Tsbs state.

 

[mass-hole]

Just for my own knowledge. Weren't the HD payloads only available in lower level models and non SCREW cabs? When I was shopping I only found ones that were XLT's with regular or extended cabs.

You can get HDPP up to lariat trim but you cannot add the 501A or 502A packages. XLT you could add 301A but I dont think 302A. You could get it in a RC 8' bed, Supercab 8' bed and Supercrew 6.5' bed. Most of the ones I have seen are the supercabs but I have seen 1 or 2 supercrew 2011-2014 trucks with HDPP. The 2016+ HDPP trucks are much harder to identify since they no longer have the 7 lug wheels.

 

[mizedog]

I saw a 2012 Platinum that only had #850 payload! Wish I would have thought to take a pic of it...

Mitch

Yikes! I have a 2012 Platinum, Supercrew, 5.5' bed. I think mine is just under 2,000. I have to check my vin, but believe it head MaxTow, 3.73. It does have a brake controller, and elephant ear mirrors. I would gladly give up the sunroof.

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[turbox2]

My truck is 2014 lariat supercrew 502A with max tow package.3:73 diff, hitch sticker max 1150lbs TW, max 11500 Trailer weight. Door sticker, GVWR 7650 lbs, payload 1605. I tow a Denali 289RKS with ease on 6-9* grades, pictured here

 

[mizedog]

My truck is 2014 lariat supercrew 502A with max tow package.3:73 diff, hitch sticker max 1150lbs TW, max 11500 Trailer weight. Door sticker, GVWR 7650 lbs, payload 1605. I tow a Denali 289RKS with ease on 6-9* grades, pictured here

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My door tire sticker says 1,531 max payload. However, I wonder if this is a limitation imposed base on stock C rated ties? Ford's specifications indicate that Max Tow brings it up to 1,900 for a 2012 Super Crew, 145 wb, 4x4, 3.5 liter.
1,900 seems to jive better with the 7,650 minus vehicle weight of 5,700 pounds.
Could E load range tires be the differentiator?

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[turbox2]

Yes, E load ratings could be a definite factor. My hitch has the gusset welded for Maxtow as previous poster's picture shows but the factory installed the cheapo Goodyear M+S load range C tires, hence the lower 1605 payload, I'm guessing. I may even go with Load range E tires when these wear out.

 

[madmaxmutt]

My door tire sticker says 1,531 max payload. However, I wonder if this is a limitation imposed base on stock C rated ties? Ford's specifications indicate that Max Tow brings it up to 1,900 for a 2012 Super Crew, 145 wb, 4x4, 3.5 liter.
1,900 seems to jive better with the 7,650 minus vehicle weight of 5,700 pounds.
Could E load range tires be the differentiator?

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Where are you getting the numbers you posted? Your truck scaled at 5700 with a full tank of gas? 1900 looks more like a marketing maximum advertised payload for 2012 than a sticker number? What limitation are you asking about?

The payload sticker number is a calculated value that subtracts from GVWR. It is the what is left after your truck's curb weight based and factory options are subtracted. Each option has an assigned weight value. The chart is on here somewhere.

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[ecoboosteagle]

My door tire sticker says 1,531 max payload. However, I wonder if this is a limitation imposed base on stock C rated ties? Ford's specifications indicate that Max Tow brings it up to 1,900 for a 2012 Super Crew, 145 wb, 4x4, 3.5 liter.
1,900 seems to jive better with the 7,650 minus vehicle weight of 5,700 pounds.
Could E load range tires be the differentiator?

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That payload looks about right for a non max tow. It looks like it came with p rated tires from factory. What model and packages on your truck? All the whistles and bells start to chip away at your pay load


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[winchested]

Only HD payload trucks came with D or E rated tires.

 

[mizedog]

Only HD payload trucks came with D or E rated tires.

I've got E4 rated Coopers. They handle 2,833 pounds at 50psi. Ford threw almost everything at my truck. It's got the Platinum goodies. Max Tow with the large mirrors and brake control, test locking diff, Sony nav system, sun roof, skid plates, FX4 springs. Bed extender, and the previous owner installed a gooseneck hitch in the bed since I'm in horse country here in Colorado. I've had about 1,000 pounds in it for a cross country trip, and it didn't seem to sag at all, but I know that wasn't a real test. I imagine I'll use a trailer to haul any large loads. I can say that this thing has tons more power than my 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.9 Magnum v8. With five people plus luggage, the F150 chugged right over the pass on I 70 west of Denver at 65 to 70mph. I had to slow down when i reached the tunnel. In 1991, my brand new Isuzu Trooper couldn't stay in 3rd gear or go more than 30 mph over that same pass. Huge difference. Of course, that's unrelated to payload rating.

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[mizedog]

Yes, E load ratings could be a definite factor. My hitch has the gusset welded for Maxtow as previous poster's picture shows but the factory installed the cheapo Goodyear M+S load range C tires, hence the lower 1605 payload, I'm guessing. I may even go with Load range E tires when these wear out.

I know my truck has 20s, but will say it handles really well with the E rated tires. Of course, I keep them well below the max psi, but they are stiff enough to allow for quick lateral direction changes. I had a Crack in one wheel that needed to be welded. While it was in the shop, I had the 18" C rated spare tire mounted. I could really feel the sidewall flex on the spare. The point is that I don't feel my tires are a burden.

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[mass-hole]

I've got E4 rated Coopers. They handle 2,833 pounds at 50psi. Ford threw almost everything at my truck. It's got the Platinum goodies. Max Tow with the large mirrors and brake control, test locking diff, Sony nav system, sun roof, skid plates, FX4 springs. Bed extender, and the previous owner installed a gooseneck hitch in the bed since I'm in horse country here in Colorado. I've had about 1,000 pounds in it for a cross country trip, and it didn't seem to sag at all, but I know that wasn't a real test. I imagine I'll use a trailer to haul any large loads. I can say that this thing has tons more power than my 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.9 Magnum v8. With five people plus luggage, the F150 chugged right over the pass on I 70 west of Denver at 65 to 70mph. I had to slow down when i reached the tunnel. In 1991, my brand new Isuzu Trooper couldn't stay in 3rd gear or go more than 30 mph over that same pass. Huge difference. Of course, that's unrelated to payload rating.

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Your truck only has 1531 lbs of payload because its a bloated whale with all/almost all of the options. Mine is the same way, 4x4 Lariat 502a Supercrew Max-tow and only 1539 lbs of payload. Had you bought a no option XL 2x4 it would have been much higher.

 

[Mitchf150]

mizedog,

For comparison, here are my stickers for my max tow. I have the factory 20's and the payload is not de-rated because of the tires in our case.. Even the P rated tires have more capacity than the rear axle rating is. Now, if your rear axle rating was in the #4800 range, then you get the D or E rated tires from the factory, but I think they only come in the 17"? Maybe 18".

I now have the "XL" rated 20's and I run them @ 40psi for everyday driving and will bump them up to 45 when towing. I tried them at 50 towing and could not tell any difference towing. When I unhitched and drove around, it was a little rougher riding (empty)

Good luck!

Mitch

 

[RMINC]

I'm starting to like my base XLT. 2036 payload and came with the bumper tow option.

Ive installed the factory class V hitch and cooler since but I might have gained a whole 10 pounds of weight between the bumper tow vs max tow reinforcement.