They are so far superior to the OEM Pirelli Scorpions that it's hard to make any honest comparison sound reasonable, but I'll try.Hey Bill, What do you think of those Terra Grapplers?
Appreciate the insights Jared, thank you.A good pad upgrade goes along ways. Forget the drilled/slotted rotors they are all a waste pretty much all for looks. Take a stroll through the paddock at a road race track and you will find that 90% use plain rotors. Just get a good set of pads the stock rotors will be nicer than most of the aftermarket offerings and are plenty large enough. If you tow the hawk LTS would be a good choice. EBC yellow stuff would be a slightly more agressive choice.
I went from stock 275/65R18 to 325/65R18. 10" to 14" wide and 32" to 35" high. I haven't upgraded my brakes and don't see any real need to. Truck stops quickly and reaction time is almost as good as my work truck (F150 XLT without mods). No doubt I will wear out brake shoes and rotors quicker, but price you pay for larger tires.So, after upgrading my tires from the stock 275/55R20 Pirelli Scorpions to 275/65R20 Nitto TerraGrapplers, the increase in diameter, grip and weight simply preclude me from getting enough force into the stock rotors to trigger the anti-lock brake system, meaning that even in a panic stop, I'm rolling to a somewhat aggressive stop, but simply not able to bark the tires, meaning I'm not stopping as quickly as I should be able to.
My first thought was to simply upgrade the brake pads from stock to semi-metallic, thereby increasing the stopping power. However, last week during a regular oil change and tire rotation at the local Ford dealership, I mentioned the brake pad upgrade and was told by the service technicians that Ford only puts semi-metallic pads on all of their trucks. I've not yet been able to confirm this with an independent source, but I'm skeptical on that bit of information.
So, I'm looking at brake upgrades. At the extreme upper end, and way above my budget are Brembo's Big Brake Kits (~$4,800). Well below that in price fall numerous drilled and slotted rotor kits containing either ceramic or semi-metallic brake pads. So many choices in fact that I'm not sure which of the numerous options might actually be the best. PowerStop, EBC, Hawk, Baer and many others offer either rotors or rotor/pad kits for consideration.
Another option is trying to find a reasonably priced caliper upgrade. Something designed around multiple pistons, and then couple that upgrade with a rotor/pad upgrade.
Has anyone out there actually done any research, or better yet, have first hand experience with any of the many options out there by chance ? I'd be grateful for any first hand experience, positive or negative, to help base my decision making on.
Funny I see that posted a lot. I will be turning 20K this week and my rims are as clean as can be. Washed regularly but only waxed once this year.i had upgraded my last truck with ceramic brakes and will do the same with the 2013 when time comes
with just 1,200 mles on the factory brakes my wheels are very dirty and need washed desperately
i had never seen dirt on my last trucks wheels from the brakes after switching to ceramic and never smelled hot brakes after towing and stopping at the bottom of a hill and it was lees than $200 to do all 4 wheels
as far as slotted or cross drilled i tried that route on the 97-F-150 i had and yes the cross drilled rotors do help with braking and dissipating heat better but not really worth the extra expense and maintenance over just a high quality performance brake compound or ceramic
I'm also running the R1 Concepts drilled and slotted rotors and their upgraded pads both front and rear. Pretty big difference considering the cost. Upgraded stainless steel brake lines helped some as well.I lifted my truck and put on 35's and noticed a big decrease in braking.
I bought a drilled & slotted 4 piece set with ceramic pads from R1 Concepts and my brakes are now as good as factory.
They cost me $490 shipped. In comparison the Wilwood 6 piston setup for my 05 Stang cost me $3600!
As far as drilled and slotted goes, I only got slotted on my Wilwood Stang setup and wish I got the drilled and slotted.
Personally I don't care what other people have to say about drilled vs not drilled, I think they are great and will buy them again.