[Shanedmoore]

I also bought ESP to 100k. Took it back today for the newest engine light and it is O2 sensor again. It was replaced about 100 -150 miles ago with Timing chain. Parts ordered go back next week for replacement.

 

[aj.n.amber]

by the time my ESP runs out, truck will be paid for and who knows maybe a couple TSBs.... at which I will either trade it in with 130k or bring it to rBrown for some serious work. haha

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[cumminsbassguy97]

2013 3.5l screw stx. Bought the truck with 47k in June 15'. Currently has 94k, oil changed every 5k ish. Depending when the wife take is it in (her truck). Have had the rattle on startup for a long while now. Only issues are the misfire under load, and crappy fuel mileage (14.9mpg doing 75, and 16mpg in town.) 33" BFG at tires. Along with the rattle. 0 warranty on the rig. Debating on trading in the f150. Or fixing the issues and hoping it fixes the issues. Or leave it and hope for the best.

 

[winchested]

Did you tune after putting 33" tires on it for proper tire size? If not the your mpg gauge is lying to you.
But back to the rattle a few guys over on the other forum just keep driving it that way.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I bought it used with 130,000 and it was doing it when i bought it.

I got the truck for about 18k under book value knowing that i needed to fix it.

So instead of fixing it i am just going to leave it alone and see how long it goes. Them rebuild it. No codes on mine yet. When it throws codes i might do something. I hate check engine lights.

The rest of the truck is like new.

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Hates check engine lights but doesn't mind a cold start rattle. Haha.

I mean I don't blame you and after getting so cheap I might do the same. You can get a motor and still come out smelling like a rose. So I definitely don't blame you. I just found that funny.

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[Pumpcheese]

My 2011 with 198k has always rattled since I got it with 18k miles. But recently it seems to be louder. I have no power loss, no codes, no overheating and have had dealer oil changes at 5-6k mile intervals. Thinking about having the TSB done, is this something I should only let the dealer do or maybe find a good independent shop that has done the TSB to save some money?

 

[winchested]

If you've been driving it that long with no adverse affect why jinx it now

 

[Pumpcheese]

You got a good point. Maybe I am just over thinking it.

 

[RMB_Ryan]

How many miles on it?^


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[Draago11]

Im not sure if anybody has tried this but I used to have that noise at 175000miles but I started substitutingetting 1 and a half quarts of lucas for 1 and a half quarts of oil and it has 189500miles on it now and the noise still isn't back.

 

[winchested]

Lots of us tried Lucas oil treatment didn't do squat.

 

[aj.n.amber]

Anyone think that it might not just be the solenoids that supply the oil or keep the pressure of it. Sorry just thinking out loud. I've been reading on other forums not regarding these trucks but similar issues and changing the solenoids did the trick. Phasers and chain might need replacing because of this, but the primary issue might be just no fluid or pressure.

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[winchested]

I believe rbrown did state that all of that should technically be replaced aswell.

 

[dnellans]

no offense to rbrown but there are enough guys doing the replacement in accordance with the most recent TSB and then having it come back that i don't think ford actually knows the problem. new parts with tighter/less worn tolerances might fix it in some cases but clearly not all.

 

[aj.n.amber]

I was just thinking that there must be one part not all parts, one part that causes this and I was just thinking solenoid might not supply enough, this phasers get clogged and issues, plus belt gets stretched, etc... so yes, of it starts, you might need it all replaced if it's bad enough or replace one piece of the puzzle that caused it from the start. that's all. rbrown of course knows more then I do, so he got to be right that all parts, right parts need replacing for it to never come back, not just the TSB

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[winchested]

no offense to rbrown but there are enough guys doing the replacement in accordance with the most recent TSB and then having it come back that i don't think ford actually knows the problem. new parts with tighter/less worn tolerances might fix it in some cases but clearly not all.

Rbrown has likely seen more of these engines open than most people I'd imagine more than any ford techs for that matter.

The TSB does not include any of the associated solenoids (I believe there are 4, 2 on each valve cover.)

 

[aj.n.amber]

Rbrown has likely seen more of these engines open than most people I'd imagine more than any ford techs for that matter.

The TSB does not include any of the associated solenoids (I believe there are 4, 2 on each valve cover.)

To be honest I think I've seen rbrown have them in his list of parts you SHOULD replace. I'm wondering if you do it before you have the noise and just replace those if it'll avoid the problem overall. Like catch it before it happens to the rest, phasers, chain, etc...

btw, that's what happens when you walk and text at the same time.

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[mwemaxxowner]

to be honest I think I've seen rbrown habe them in his list. I'm wondering if you do.t have the noose and just replace those if it'll avoid it.

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[mwemaxxowner]

To be honest I think I've seen rbrown have them in his list of parts you SHOULD replace. I'm wondering if you do it before you have the noise and just replace those if it'll avoid the problem overall. Like catch it before it happens to the rest, phasers, chain, etc...

btw, that's what happens when you walk and text at the same time.

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Much better. Haha

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[RMB_Ryan]

no offense to rbrown but there are enough guys doing the replacement in accordance with the most recent TSB and then having it come back that i don't think ford actually knows the problem. new parts with tighter/less worn tolerances might fix it in some cases but clearly not all.

I don't get offended. I'm advising on what I recommend. It is a recommendation, take it with a grain of salt.
The solenoids should be replaced. I've seen the screens dirty (who's knows with what, see them sticky, and they are what makes the entire system work. Why not change them. Makes no sense, it's 4 bolts, literally, and it will not hurt, it controls oil. Ford wants to fix (bandaid) this issue with the least amount of parts, labor, and if they get you through your warranty expiration, well good for them. I don't recommend just having the work done in accordance with the TSB. They don't change enough parts, and let's not forget they don't include the oil change anymore. I wouldn't worry much about tolerances, I'd be concerned about them leaving your old contaminated oil with debris from cleaning the block up, and doing the work. That will tighten tolerances right up. Little silicone in there or the rags they shove in the motor to block the debris. Lint won't fair well