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Havs54's 2.7 "Master Chief" Build

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#1 · (Edited)
I figure I'll start a build thread even though many mods are already done

Current Picture:
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Prior to debadging
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New 35" Nitto Recon Grapplers
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CVF Air Intake
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Smoke Taillights and Smoke 3rd Brake Light
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I didn't have any stock pics but same build Stock:
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Current Mods:
295/70r18 (34.5" Tires)
18" XLT Sport Powdercoated Wheels
3" Block with Raptor Take Offs
Icon 2.5" 4wd Coilover w/4wd Spindle Swap
SCT BDX Tuner w/ Unleashed 93 Tune
CVF Air Intake
CVF Titan IC
CVF Hot/Cold Charge Pipes
CVF Downpipes
Fabetech Angled Tire Carrier
Walker 3" Resonator Delete
SPD 3" GX Cat Back
Smoke OEM Style Headlights
Smoke OEM Style taillights
Smoke LED 3rd Brake Light

Future Mods Planned:
Icon or Fox 2.5" RR 4wd Coilover
Leather Conversion or Neoprene Seat Covers
4wd Spindle Swap
CRP Stage 4 Turbos
CVF Turbo Inlets
Fabetech Angled Tire Carrier
Sound System

4.10 Gears

Potential Mods:
Full Raptor front Suspension Conversion
Deaver Leaf Springs
Fiberglass Fenders
Off road front and rear bumper
37's
Custom Big Turbos
 

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#3 ·
Good looking truck with some good mods. Raptor shocks in back, what is in front?
I do use Icon 2.5 CDCV all around, my F150 is much lighter but I like the Icon's a lot.
If I sugest anything itvwould be to go with large diameter front coil-overs that are adjustable for ride height and dispose of the level kit, iuf buying Deavers again reaserch for lift options (Deaver offers a bunch) or look into the Icon RXT and loose the rear blocks. 10-14 RAPTOR MULTI RATE RXT LEAF PACK W/ ADD IN LEAF 10-14 RAPTOR MULTI RATE RXT LEAF PACK W/ ADD IN LEAF - Icon Vehicle Dynamics KM
 
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Good looking truck with some good mods. Raptor shocks in back, what is in front?
I do use Icon 2.5 CDCV all around, my F150 is much lighter but I like the Icon's a lot.
If I sugest anything itvwould be to go with large diameter front coil-overs that are adjustable for ride height and dispose of the level kit, iuf buying Deavers again reaserch for lift options (Deaver offers a bunch) or look into the Icon RXT and loose the rear blocks. 10-14 RAPTOR MULTI RATE RXT LEAF PACK W/ ADD IN LEAF 10-14 RAPTOR MULTI RATE RXT LEAF PACK W/ ADD IN LEAF - Icon Vehicle Dynamics KM
I'm probably going to go with the Icon RR CDCV 2.5" in the front, even with the Raptor Rear takeoffs I think it would match well

I was considering the Fox 2.5" DSC but I've heard mixed reviews about the ride and also the Corrosion Resistance. I've had Digressive shocks in the past and I really like them. The Raptor Bypass rears were just too great of a deal too pass up

I'll research some more about the Icon RXT vs Deaver
 
#7 ·
So you have a 2wd. Mine is also. I have a full set of Icon Stage 1 2.5's IFP coil-overs and 2.0 rear shocks taken off at 40000 miles and replaced with CDCV 2.5 versions front and back. I run minimal front lift that comes to1.75 inches. No lift in back no blocks. 275-70-17 Nokian Rotiva's on 8.5-17 0 offset wheels.
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Like digessive valving also, the handling characteristics are superb. KM
 
#8 ·
Nice looking truck OP
 
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I have mine perfectly level with a 1.5 level up front and rear block removal for the rear...... been contemplating removing the front leveler and dropping the rear 1.5.... Lol
 
#11 ·
OP, thoughts about removing the sport sticker on the rear bed panels and blacking out the F150 Emblems?
 
#13 ·
Nice looking truck. I still wish I would have got a 2.7.
 
#14 ·
Appreciate it, it’s funny because when I was researching them I was all in on the 3.5 but I test drove a 2.7 and thought it was kind of average. Then I remembered the salesman told me to try out sport mode…..it was all over after that, I couldn’t believe this little engine could make a full size truck haul like that.

I can’t wait to regear to 4.10s with my current setup, the stock 3.31 gears and 265/70r18 tires (31 lbs each) absolutely hauled in this truck. Such effortless acceleration but such a bad stance haha

Also the fact that’s it’s the only gas CGI block is sick, I bet with forged pistons and rods this thing could be darn near 700 whp. @boostkingMatt thoughts?
 
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My gut tells me that with 4.10s, you'll be launching in 2nd or 3rd gear. 10-speed transmissions make so many things right with a tall rear end. I'm sure you have your reasons but I'd probably point you towards 3.73's, if you're feeling the need to go with a short stack.
 
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Some info that may help with gear choice,
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My 2.7, 6 speed, 3.73 gear, 32 inch tall tires. Not marked but 87 MPH at the shift into 4thwhen I shut down. KM
 
#21 ·
With taller tires the speed goes up, just as if lowering the gear ratio to 3.31. KM
 
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#24 ·
I run 34.5" tires with the 6 speed and 3.55 gears myself, and I can't actually imagine shorter gearing.

2wd Traction can be a handful as it is (though its much improved with the 295mm contact patch vs 275mm I had previously), and I can still easily do under 2 second 60 ft times at the strip in 4wd.

And while that's with the 3.5, it's only pushing around 400hp at the crank, on a very good day.

If it's not a drag truck, I bet 3.73s would work well, and sounds like less of a headache to source & build too.
 
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"2wd Traction can be a handful as it is (though its much improved with the 295mm contact patch vs 275mm I had previously), and I can still easily do under 2 second 60 ft times at the strip in 4wd." That's for sure. I'll probably keep the 275's even if they can be toasted. I simply want to keep the weight down yet have enough performance and traction. What I have lacking in traction from a dead start is truly made up in cornering and ride.

"If it's not a drag truck, I bet 3.73s would work well, and sounds like less of a headache to source & build too." That's why I posted my graph. The 3.73 indeed works very well. From the ocaisonal 0-80 blast on an entry ramp to driving on mild boreal forest service roads. I never noticed a big loss in MPG with the 3.73, but it sure adds to the snappy responsiveness. KM
 
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#29 ·
Ya that'd be a massive difference going to the 4.10. Is it more common in the 5.0s to go with 4.10 vs 3.73 with 35s due too lower low end torque?

That would make sense because these ecoboosts have so much low end torque

In my research through the years I feel like people always said 4.10s with V8s
 
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Back then was different than now, cause back then transmissions had only 4 gears which had different driving characteristics than the new 6 and 10 speed transmissions
 
#34 ·
So I got a quote back from a shop $1700 for the rear end gear swap. Seems a bit high but not insane

I currently have the Super 8.8 3.31 with E-Locker (L3 Axle Code), am I pretty much limited to the Super 8.8 3.73 with E-Locker (L6) if I want a straight swap?

From what I researched a 9.75 swap would require a new driveshaft and potentially losing the parking brake...do all the 15+ trucks have the electric parking brake 8.8 or 9.75?
 
#41 ·
Setting patterns is about the only thing that’s really meticulous and difficult about differentials. If you can follow a service manual and have the tooling I think you can do it.
 
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#42 ·
I thought so but the diff is already shimmed for proper back lash and depth he just has to make sure not to get the shims mixed up from the carrier assembly
 
#45 ·
Unless he’s swapping in a complete differential there will be some setup. You’d be crazy to just assume that everything is going to be the same.
 
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#48 ·
If your old pinion bearing is still good, and you get it off the pinion without damaging it you can hone it out to a slip fit over the new pinion. Then you can set up the drive and coast patterns, along with backlash without the crush sleeve. You need to measure the stock carrier bearing shims and the total will have to be matched with any new shims because that stack up sets your bearing preload on those. Setting up a rear end properly isn't super difficult, it can just be time consuming if it's done right.
 
#49 ·
With my experience in re-gearing the 8.8 i kept the shimming the same as it was with the 3.31 gearing. I put a new pinion bearing checked backlash and depth with the proper pinion preload and everything checked out, i didnt have to re-shim anything at all. You should always double check your work of course and i also bought a shim kit just in case i had to add or swap shims but from the research i did before i re-gear my diff i found out that you didnt have to re-shim the carrier or pinion cause it was it was already set from when the axle was assembled from the factory
 
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#58 ·
FR3Z-4209-B here is the part number i ordered its a 3.73 gear set i paid 270 for it shipped. RICHMOND 831047B this is the shim kit i bought just in case i needed parts i paid 75 bucks for it. This is all you need to regear your truck