[BOOSTEDSVT03]

I have a 2016 F-150 Ecoboost Platinum FX4 Supercrew and have been thinking about switching over to the Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I would love to get a Raptor but I am not interested in paying over sticker price for a F-150.

First question is for those that looked at the F-150 or Owned a F-150 and chose the Pro what were your deciding factors.

Second, Anyone ever convert from the 3.5 Ecoboost to a Tundra and why?

Lastly, Is there anyone that went from a Tundra to a Ecoboost?

I love the interior of my Platinum and it seems like the Ford has a leg up on the Tundra in the technology department. To me it drives like a car and seems like it would be fragile to be actually used as a truck. I think the ECO has great power but I do miss the V8.

So to me the TRD wins in Engine, Suspension, and brute looking appearance.

Ford wins in technology, ride quality and fuel economy I am guessing.

I know this is a Ford Forum so there will be some bias, but I appreciate that too!

It seems like the Toyota's hold their value much better but I think this is due to a lack of point of sale discounts and incentives.

My last thought is to keep the Platinum and just put a nicer suspension and tires on it and a tune to get more power!

 

[Isdaako]

Look here.

TRD Pro vs. F150 - TundraTalk.net - Toyota Tundra Discussion Forum

 

[LIEco]

For us when we were buying at the end of 2014, it was about towing aspects that the max trailer tow Ford had over Toyota that won us over - some of which Toyota addressed in the past few years. Toyota didn't have integrated brake controller and trailer anti-say (which they since added as option), fuel tank was much smaller - Toyota was 26 gal. max and Ford offered 36 gal. max (which translates to~100 miles less when towing with the Tundra) and Ford offered more available payload with the options we were looking at. The additional payload allows us to put our family of five plus tow our travel trailer within the rated specs. The fully boxed frame that the F-150 offered along with the Toyota frame rust issues - mostly on older Tacomas but spanned many years, but on other models as well and Toyota's response, were concerning to me especially putting my family inside and towing the travel trailer. If we were buying today a lot of these gaps have been closed by Toyota, so it would be a very difficult decision if buying again. If driven only for personal use, I think the gap would be closer. Good luck with your decision!

 

[WooBoost]

To me it drives like a car and seems like it would be fragile to be actually used as a truck. I think the ECO has great power but I do miss the V8.

Only a communist would go from a Ford to a foreign truck, are you a communist?

You should look more into the f150 chassis, it is better than an other truck and your year is highest safety rating. Don't get it twisted, companies are making nice trucks now because that is what the customer wants, it is still a truck. I think since you have a Platinum, you might have less towing because it comes with the 22's right? That is the only thing holding it back the tires.

The eco will out tow any n/a v8 if that's what you mean by "using it as a truck"

Also as I preach to many people, buy something, take care of it and hold on to it unless you have money to blow. There is no point in switching cars to start over on payments(assuming your truck and this topper model TRD is same price point now)

 

[BOOSTEDSVT03]

Only a communist would go from a Ford to a foreign truck, are you a communist?

You should look more into the f150 chassis, it is better than an other truck and your year is highest safety rating. Don't get it twisted, companies are making nice trucks now because that is what the customer wants, it is still a truck. I think since you have a Platinum, you might have less towing because it comes with the 22's right? That is the only thing holding it back the tires.

The eco will out tow any n/a v8 if that's what you mean by "using it as a truck"

Also as I preach to many people, buy something, take care of it and hold on to it unless you have money to blow. There is no point in switching cars to start over on payments(assuming your truck and this topper model TRD is same price point now)

The platinum has 20" wheels and is a max tow model so it will tow.

I am a fan of the power the Ecoboost puts out but I do have some quality control issues.
It has wind noise that Ford says "they all do it so it's normal"
1 out of 5 starts my radio doesn't work
The fact that I have to run a catch can and catch a good amount of milky sludge is a turnoff and add to that some dealers say it will void the warranty.

I just looked at my frame and it is indeed boxed the entire length, the Tundra is only boxed to the firewall.

Now I am sure the Tundra has its share of issues

 

[meaz93]

Only a communist would go from a Ford to a foreign truck, are you a communist?

You should look more into the f150 chassis, it is better than an other truck and your year is highest safety rating. Don't get it twisted, companies are making nice trucks now because that is what the customer wants, it is still a truck. I think since you have a Platinum, you might have less towing because it comes with the 22's right? That is the only thing holding it back the tires.

The eco will out tow any n/a v8 if that's what you mean by "using it as a truck"

Also as I preach to many people, buy something, take care of it and hold on to it unless you have money to blow. There is no point in switching cars to start over on payments(assuming your truck and this topper model TRD is same price point now)

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[WooBoost]

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This is gold.

 

[greg hazlett]

I had a 2007 and 2010 Tundra and had zero issues with them; with that said Toyota's success is a blessing and a curse; when Toyota finds something that works it really works, when then find something that works they will not change it; the engine and tranny in the latest Tundra is the same that it had in 2007. When I bought the Tundra it blew the F150 out of the water but Ford has improved and evolved hence why I have the F150.

And the Tundra is more American built than the F150 is...

 

[BOOSTEDSVT03]

I had a 2007 and 2010 Tundra and had zero issues with them; with that said Toyota's success is a blessing and a curse; when Toyota finds something that works it really works, when then find something that works they will not change it; the engine and tranny in the latest Tundra is the same that it had in 2007. When I bought the Tundra it blew the F150 out of the water but Ford has improved and evolved hence why I have the F150.

And the Tundra is more American built than the F150 is...

That being said if you could do it over again would you have purchased another Tundra?

Heck I just emptied my catch cans and noticed that with only 4K miles on my truck, my oil level has risen. I thought Ford would have figured this out after TSB 15-003.

 

[WooBoost]

I had a 2007 and 2010 Tundra and had zero issues with them; with that said Toyota's success is a blessing and a curse; when Toyota finds something that works it really works, when then find something that works they will not change it; the engine and tranny in the latest Tundra is the same that it had in 2007. When I bought the Tundra it blew the F150 out of the water but Ford has improved and evolved hence why I have the F150.

And the Tundra is more American built than the F150 is...

Zero problems except the frames falling apart from rust.

More American built, wrong.

AALA domestic content score 2016 F150 - 70%, 2016 Tundra - 65%. Accounting for the other factors in the ranking, the F150 scores 4th most US built vehicle in 2016 with a total domestic content of 85% and the Tundra is 73.5%

For 2014 (proud owner) the F150 #1 most American at 75% AALA score with an overall ranking of 87.5% domestic score.

 

[EcoXLT]

That being said if you could do it over again would you have purchased another Tundra?

Heck I just emptied my catch cans and noticed that with only 4K miles on my truck, my oil level has risen. I thought Ford would have figured this out after TSB 15-003.

Sounds to me you already know what you want to do.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I understand the catch can thing, but at the same time I don't.

You don't HAVE to run a catch can. Many don't and have no problems.

But as to the blow by that it helps with, it's a by product or the direct injection, which allows us to get the power that we do, and from a v6. Which also allows us that bump in fuel economy. It's not really something Ford did wrong, it's just direct injection. And I think direct injection was oh so right .

Plus I think the yotas are ugly, and I like my nice ride. I had f250s that beat me to death for years. Lol

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[BOOSTEDSVT03]

Sounds to me you already know what you want to do.

Not quite. Like I said the Tundra in my opinion has a far superior drivetrain but doesn't have a boxed frame and lacks the technology and comfort items the Fords have.

What I posted about problems are common Ford Ecoboost problems. I am waiting to hear the Tundra problems

 

[mwemaxxowner]

Less power, less comfort, and less fuel economy I'd say!

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[greg hazlett]

Not until Toyota ups their game, the ecoboost line and alum bodied trucks are ahead of the Tundra's.

That being said if you could do it over again would you have purchased another Tundra?

Heck I just emptied my catch cans and noticed that with only 4K miles on my truck, my oil level has risen. I thought Ford would have figured this out after TSB 15-003.

 

[greg hazlett]

I can't agree with the superior drivetrain esp after having the Tundra and a 2012 Seq with the same drivetrain; they are solid and reliable but again, they are not bettering their vehicles, just staying tried and true.

 

[greg hazlett]

What I found:

Top 10 "Most American" Trucks for 2015 | Edmunds.com

Its a tie but the engine and truck are built in the USA for the Tundra whereas the Ford's engine is built in Canada...i

It is very close either way.

And the older Tacomas were the ones rusting the frames, not the Tundra.

Zero problems except the frames falling apart from rust.

More American built, wrong.

AALA domestic content score 2016 F150 - 70%, 2016 Tundra - 65%. Accounting for the other factors in the ranking, the F150 scores 4th most US built vehicle in 2016 with a total domestic content of 85% and the Tundra is 73.5%

For 2014 (proud owner) the F150 #1 most American at 75% AALA score with an overall ranking of 87.5% domestic score.

 

[WooBoost]

According to Reuters, Toyota has reached a settlement in a class action lawsuit involving owners of various Toyota trucks with severe frame rust. The settlement is for $3.4 billion and will pay for inspecting and replacing frames on affected trucks. It also allows Toyota to avoid admitting any wrongdoing. In total, this settlement could include 1.5 million 2005-2010 Toyota Tacomas, 2005-2008 Sequoias, and 2007-2008 Tundras. Reuters reports that vehicles are eligible up to 12 years to the day that they were sold. The Wall Street Journal reports that Toyota will reach out to owners via mail, notices to publications, and internet methods.

This is far from the first time Toyota has dealt with troublesome rust on its pickup trucks. The company fixed many frames and even expanded its rust perforation warranty on 1995-2000 Toyota Tacomas. That warranty covered over 800,000 trucks. Toyota also had to issue a recall for 2001-2003 Tundras for frame rust. That latter recall also led to a payout of $25 million to Toyota from Dana, the company that supplied the frames. Two years ago, Tacomas from 2005-2011 were also recalled for leaf springs that could rust and break.







Click on the link you posted about top 10, which supports Ford as number one and read it. The scores show right what I am referencing to, "Kogod Made in America Auto Index Score" and it also has a link directly to the "Kogod Made in America Auto Index"

Canada counts as US. This study is good because it factors in a number of different factors, including if the company is US or not, because money still goes out of country with Toyota.

 

[greg hazlett]

LOL...Canada counts as the US? Ok....anyway....it is very close and I am not interested in a pissing contest with you....

I will answer any questions about the Tundra/Seq since I had those vehicles but I am done with WooBoost.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I *believe* that many of the ecoboost engines are built in Ohio.

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