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LOL...Canada counts as the US? Ok....anyway....it is very close and I am not interested in a pissing contest with you....

I will answer any questions about the Tundra/Seq since I had those vehicles but I am done with WooBoost.


This is not a pissing contest, I am right and I want to make sure it is known. The internet is full of people saying "well my toyota or whatever is actually more American made blah blah blah." This started years ago when articles started showing up stating this fact, then it spread all over the internet and now people continue to say it even when it is not true is certain circumstances. Most of these made in America lists don't account for where the profits go either.

And yes, Canada does count together in the AALA number "U.S. and Canadian content are combined into one number." The American University report goes into detail to add on this and how it applies to their research. They say it is not the best for accuracy and their research goes more in depth, so looking at your Edmunds link, even though they say tie, the American study says 82.5 vs 76 for 2015.


O and i am pretty sure the 5.0 is Canada and the Ecoboost is Cleveland which makes the Eco more American.


And people say I am brand loyal or whatever, good at least I stand for something, unlike most today.
 
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The content sticker on the 2017 Tundra I looked at said 65% US content and 15% import. What I do not know is if the NAFTA results in the 65% being North American and not US?

I think the F-150's US made percentage is a lot higher but I can't find it anywhere
 
The content sticker on the 2017 Tundra I looked at said 65% US content and 15% import. What I do not know is if the NAFTA results in the 65% being North American and not US?

I think the F-150's US made percentage is a lot higher but I can't find it anywhere
Where did the missing 20% come from?
 
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North American content includes US, Mexico and Canada. Makes you think only US though don't it sense we are so US centric.

A Canadian and an "American" (as in citizen of the US) were having a discussion about this and that over a few beers and as often happens the conversation devolved into a series of undefendable disagreements and the name calling.

"Well you Canucks aren't all that smart! Look at the name of your country, C A N A D A" the American spelled out.

The canadian thought a minute and then with a big grin pointed at his American friend "Well how smart is us aye?!"
 
North American content includes US, Mexico and Canada. Makes you think only US though don't it sense we are so US centric.

A Canadian and an "American" (as in citizen of the US) were having a discussion about this and that over a few beers and as often happens the conversation devolved into a series of undefendable disagreements and the name calling.

"Well you Canucks aren't all that smart! Look at the name of your country, C A N A D A" the American spelled out.

The canadian thought a minute and then with a big grin pointed at his American friend "Well how smart is us aye?!"
I dont think it includes Mexico. If I vehicle is over 10% or is it 15% imported, it has to say on a seperate sticker by law on window. For example, last time I looked at Mustangs, it says 15% Mexico.

Really my communist thing was a joke. The f150 is better than tundra any way I see it, safety, towing, interior etc. If the catch can is the only argument well then that is just your choice. If anyone can provide any information to him, then do so.
 
I had a 2008 Tundra as a service vehicle (double cab, 5.7, Limited). It was a hand-me-down from my boss as he flips every two years, one year for him and one year for me. I'm by no means an abusive driver and yet the dash was lit up like a Christmas tree in a few months. It went in for warranty work 9 times in 4 months. Rear-end had to be re-built, ABS issues and would randomly stall. I have family that are HUGE Toy fans and have had good experiences, but I just can't bring myself to look at one.

I would rather drive the ugly duckling Titan with the Cummins.

It seems that you flip vehicles pretty often, so why are you worried about a catch can?
 
Tundra's are nice but me personally would give the nissan titan Cummins a good look if I was going to trade.
I like motor tends comment on the Nissan. It looks like a sat in the sun melted Ford.
 
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I have read that the Titan cummins is a dog. Feels slow and the turbo spools slowly. But I haven't driven it, so take that with a grain of salt. Seems I remember somebody here mentioning that also.

But I'm sure it technically is rated to tow more.

Everybody here is obviously going to tell you to go Ford. We love our trucks. My '16 2.7 is phenomenal so far at 15k miles. But we aren't spending your money. Drive them both. See if the dealer will let you take a tow. We can't make up your mind. The '17 3.5 will be epic.

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I just look at the possible money lost on the trade. A year old truck right off the lot has a loss in resale. Heck I have a 14 and worry about loving the new 17 and what I'm going to loss if I go that way.
 
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Obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but seriously who came up with that Tundra design (Butt Ugly IMO)..wait, maybe the dude that got fired from the new Titan program or- err vice versus.
Que the soundtrack from the "Good" Star Wars flick aka Darth Vader strolling the isles of his Death Star Rig.
I had a Titan for 10years (slightly messaged :grin:)...nothing brought a bigger smile on my mug than showing the Titan tail lights to a bloated Lexus.
Now...I don't even need a tune to thrash one off those Toyotas with my Boost.
Don't hardly ever see a Tundra pulling an oversized trailer....maybe a landscape trailer-lol
But hey they have a great resell value.


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My problem with your logic is that you want a Raptor, but dont wanna pay for it, so you go to a Tundra TRD pro? You do realize that the Raptor and TRD Pro are quite different. The Raptor has a fully built factory mid travel suspension with 35" tires while the TRD Pro is essentially just a Tundra with a factory level and bilstein shocks and some 32's slapped on. F150's come with 32's. You could build your F150 to be equal, or probably better than the TRD with a set of Fox 2.0's. You already have skids. $1500 and you're better off.

Heck, if you want have to have a tundra, you probably are better off buying a TRD Off-road and putting on your own shocks and tires then buying the TRD Pro

Also, youre on a ecoboost forum, no one agrees that the Toyota drivetrain or any V8 is better(well maybe no ANY v8). Sure they sound better, but if you got a tune on the ecoboost, then switched to a tundra, you would be severely disappointed. The only other motor I would put up against an EB is the GM L86 6.2L.
 
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I don't get why people want things and complain about the price in a non equal comparison. The Toyota is NOT the same truck as a raptor. Nor is the rebel.


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Plus, how much money are you gunna lose trading a 2016 F150 to get a tundra TRD pro? Money you could put towards making your F150 better than the Tundra.
 
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