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Woo-Boost's Oil Information and Build Thread

I changed my oil yesterday along with the transfer case, rear end and installed Wagner intercooler.

For the oil, I am 0-2 with the Fumoto valve. The first time it was not threading into the hole, found out they sent me the wrong valve after checking serial number. This time around I thought I had the vavle with me, went to change oil and could not find it. Thought I left it at work, not there either. Not sure where it is!

I also forgot the oil comes out of the pan like a rocket on these truck. Ended up covering my arm in oil since i didn't have the pan back far enough. :eek:
The used oil will be sent off to be analyzed. I took sample mid stream from pan. I will update this post and thread when I get results.

For this oil change I also purchased the Amsoil oil filter wrench. These fit on end of filter and you use a 3/8 wrench in the end. This is WAY easier than using a traditional filter wrench than wraps around can and you pull handle. Would recommend everyone purchasing this.


The transfer case, I pulled out my hand pump for. Unfortunately the fluid you use (Amsoil ATF for our transfer cases) is too thin and it did not pump well. I thought I was really screwed at this point having an empty transfer case and no way to get to parts store. I managed to find a mini filter in garage, rig it with a mini hose and thankfully being a truck, there was just enough room to dump the oil directly from the Quart jug into the mini filter. :cool:

The rear axle I put a Mag-Hytec cover on with 5 quartz of Amsoil. The factory diff cover had the most RTV gasket from the factory on anything I have ever seen. Ford went nuts with it. The cover is very nice, reusable O ring built in (if you ever take off, you don't need RTV), 2 magnets built in (the drain plug and dipstick) and uses ARP bolts. The only issue with those bolts is it is a damn hex head. I managed (again) to somehow dig up a step down for my 3/8 torque wrench to a 1/4 and use a socket that accepted a hex head. I did not remove the driver side factory fill nut. Mag-Hytec instruction state to fill fluid between lines on dipstick and that matches the factory fill location. You do not want to go over this. For those who reuse stock cover, you check level by fluid weeping out of fill hole.

While doing this job, I also decided to drop spare to give me more room. You must have the factory lug wrench to do this. I actually had to read the owners manual to figure it out.....:eek:

Note-TA performance cover has built in support. They also make the Ford Racing 8.8 covers. You might want to go this route if you are running big power and slicks.

Finally the intercooler. This is the best packaged item I have ever received. Pretty sure you could throw it off a cliff and not damage the intercoooler inside. I had the stock intercooler out in 10 minutes, very easy. Upon putting the Wagner in, I mounted the lower bracket to the studs the air dam mounts to. Took me a while to figure my error there after the piping would not reach. You WILL NEED A HELPER to put this thing in. It is a damn tank. I wonder if lead or cast iron is in that thing because it is heavy as hell laying on your back trying to put it in place. I would also like to note, there is a TON of metal shavings in the holes of it when you pull off the rubber cap. I spent 5 mins blowing each of them out best i could with compressed air. I hope no left overs get sucked into engine. I was really disappointed in that part.

I also looked at my stock intercooler. Have had a RX can since 1000 miles. There was zero trace of any fluid in stock intercooler and it was completely dry.

Finally the test drive. I started driving and built up boost to dump. Wanted to make sure the pipes held and the BOV held. It was making a weird noise, not the typical noise. I thought either the BOV was not mounted/leaking or a pipe had come off. I pulled over and checked the piping....all good, then I noticed I had not connected the electrical connection back to the BOV. I hooked it up and it is working fine. If this was not connected, the boost must have went back through the turbos? :confused: Make sure you plug that in.

Next up, line x, exhaust and checking stock plugs and regapping them.


EDIT-see post #9 for oil analysis and relating data.
Update two - See post #34
 
#108 ·
This trans cooler does not let the temp go above 195. We shall see how it does in the summer. It would really shine for you guys that tow a lot.
 
#109 ·
Im thinking trans cooler when I do the new fluid rather than the bigger pan since the trans has a thermostat in it.
 
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#110 ·
I did not like the companies that make trans pans currently, so i kept my stock one. The benefit is more fluid takes longer to heat up. If you do a lot of towing, it would help but for me a cooler only is enough.

Next time i change my fluid, i will be drilling my stock pan and welding a drain hole in place.

This cooler is 10row....i was looking at the powerstroke (6.0) it has a factory 31 row cooler and aftermarket Mishmoto is 37!
 
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Is the powerstroke a direct bolt on as well? I think the 10 row will help out a lot more than what we have now. But damn a 37 row would be crazy! Definitely would work the trans thermostat lol I bet temps would stay around 190 regardless of what is going on! (Or whatever temp it opens up at) I am just excited to swap out for the Amsoil fluid. Looking at their 0w-40 engine oil as well.

Side question WooBoost, do they have anything compatible for our T-cases? I know there was some talk that they are phasing out the XL-12 T case fluid from ford and recommending using the LV fluid.
EDIT: Found a post from a bit ago. The red fluid is still compatible with XL-12 for transfer cases for us.
 
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No it is not a direct bolt in.

I am using amsoil transmission fluid red bottle in my t case, it was xl12 comparable. Ford just changed over to saying use LV in the transfer case. This is the same fluid as the transmission. I dont know if ford added anything to their LV to meet transfer case spec or it is the same thing as before. That being said Amsoil Blue is LV, so you would use the same in t case.

The fluid change is not that big of a deal. Ford has change fluid recommendations over the past decade a few times. Your chance of t case failure due to the fluid is very very small. When i go to change transfercase again in a few years, ill put the blue in.
 
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I think I am going to go direct bolt on route with the saudi raptor trans cooler install or the excursion. Just so it looks oem and fits nice lol.

That makes sense about the fluid I wish they would make up their mind though lol. I didn't think it would make a huge difference but rather be safe than sorry. That means I gotta renew my preferred customer sub on amsoil again. I want to do fluids I know it is time for coolant and my diffs as well. And of course it is winter and freezing lol Thanks wooboost! Getting me motivated to work out in this cold
 
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Yesterday I installed (with help) parts I ordered on black friday, including Bilstein 5100 shocks and struts and turbosmart BOV. I also installed the MOOG upgraded sway bar bushings and re-installed my 2.5 degree shims.

I will get some pictures later.

Struts, I DID NOT REMOVE THE AXLE NUT. I removed the Upper control arm ball joint, the tie rod end and the top sway bar nut on the end link and the vacuum line from the hub. That's it. On the 2014, this is first year of bottom strut being 2 vertical bolts. These damn things are press fitted in! I just used a big ass pry bar to pop them out from the bottom. The first side it popped out right on my hand. The coil and strut assembly is a lot heavier than imagined, lol. Hand is swollen. I did not test 4x4 yet but will today, should all be good.

Sway bar is the MOOG hard material pieces that were recomneded on here. I greased them with AMSOIL grease before installing. The stock ones were in perfect shape, however MOOG ones are much stiffer.

I am using stock 4x4 setting on front and 2wd shocks in rear because i have my rear lowered on shackle.

For the pinion shims, i was getting some vibration still after installing custom drive shaft (i installed this to test if it would remove vibration that everyone blames on the stock drive shaft, see this thread for pics of it). Going back in time, i installed this 2.5 shims with the shackle drop initially, that was before traction bars. It ended up being too much according to my measurements, so i pulled them out and put 1 degree in. After traction bars, the pinion does not move a lot, so the 1 degree was too little adjustment and i had over 4 degrees of pinion angle (on my measurements), for traction bars you was 2 to 3 max. I believe this is why i had some slight vibrations. Now i installed the 2.5 back in (i did not remeasure, i just went and drove) and the vibration is mostly gone. I ill continue to see if its better. Right now i should have 1 degree on the front and 2.5 degree on the back resting on tires. This is perfect for a traction bar to be equal and opposite under load.

For my BOV, my ebov did not have any tears in it and still works great. I got the turbosmart to prevent this from happening under high boost. I put the the turbosmart with elbow on my Wagner intercooler, it fits fine. 2014 trucks have a nipple right behind the TB for boost reference so I did not use the map spacer. Also, no bracket will work on the BOV, so the only thing holding it in, is it being screwed in. With how much it screws into the intercooler, there should be no problem with it. The bracket is over kill. I put a bag over the open connector wire that went to the ebov and zip tied it to the vacuum line of turbosmart behidn the interrcooler to prevent as much moisture as possible from getting to it. I did not use a tap in wire either, i had my tune updated to turn off the ebov (p0035) and it did not throw a code yet, so the tune must be working. The BOV was set too tight from the box and was not opening on test drive, i turned it almost a full turn looser and it works much better now. Pics to come of vacuum line routing.
 
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I bought remote start kit from my ford guy. 2 keys, transmitter for 225 bucks. This thing plugs in behind the glove box in 5 mins. I took my keys to my local ford dealer and the cut them for free with provided key. Just put it in machine and it matches it i guess.

1) after key cut, programed both using both original admin keys. You can google how to do this and read owners manual. If you dont do this and just put it in ignition, it gives you "start malfunction" on LCD screen (if you have this).
2) plugged remote start in tonight, it is so easy on these trucks, 1 plug!
3) programmed remote start on forscan
4) programmed remote start options to appear on LCD screen. Go to settings>vehicle> scroll down to remote start.
5) programmed the lane change to be 5 blinks instead of 3 stock.
6) programmed LCD screen to have this cool compass type thing and show letter directions permanently in right hand corner of screen.

I did not do bambi mode. The only other thing I will have interest in doing in future, is putting LED bulbs in read lights and turning option off in forscan so it doesnt hyper flash.

The truck starts and drives so i dont think i messed anything up! Excited for remote start!
 
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Here's some pictures. Ill snap the BOV this weekend and lines.

The running boards @Boostking were dustless blasted and had hold tight applied to prevent flash rust. I forgot to take a picture of this and also the befores! dangit! Before there was all kinds of bubbling of paint and underside was flaking off and lots of visible rust. The hold tight was a grey finish. There was lots of rust, the metal had lots of small holes/erosion at the end of the board closest to front tires after the blast was done. Line x sanded the hold tight and then coated it. Line X Premium (uv resistant). Did you know you can line X plastic? Its not as strong of a bond line metal but in low use areas you can do it and it will not fail.

The running boards are appearance package (?) metal with plastic end caps and plastic top inserts that snap in. I used a heat gun to heat up the plastic step part so they would not break and pulled them out. I still have them. I decided to leave the plastic off and they covered the holes with "tin tape" and line x over the this and did the end caps separately. It came out really nice except a few of the holes "caved" in like with the line x so there are a few dents on the boards. I spray fluid film inside the running boards. If there was not an opening on the ends beneath the plastic end caps, I would have line x over them entirely but the holes still allow for moisture to enter.

I also put grease fluid film on the metal mounts that the running boards mount too to prevent those from rusting (did take pic, too cold).

The map sensor is from the cold pipe in front of the TB. If you go back a few pages you will see the map sensor from the manifold has a bit of oil on it. This one has zero oil and was pulled a few hundred miles later. :confused:

Compass screen and the direction letters both added in forscan















 
#119 ·
The center leather is from redline goods originally, although an upholstery shop can make it. I picked up on black friday. The foam added under is done by the upholstery shop and wraps on sides, front, back and top. The other pieces are black suede.

I plan on doing my headliner and a few other things in black suede eventually as well.
 
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Here is how I routed the BOV. As you will see the 14 has factory nipple on intake. No need to use anything at all from the kit except the BOV and line.

The line goes behind the intercooler, behind the air guide shield on drive side, through frame hole into the engine bay and then to nipple.

I didnt get pics of the actual BOV, i will though.

I took the EBOV out of the canister(two bolts) and looked at it, i see no damage and it was still working fine. Then I put it back together and in a bag for storage.









 
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Just saw that the new ford spec for the T-Case is mercon LV. I saw it on amsoil website for the T-case.

Are you running blue or red in your t case?

Did confirm with ford that Mercon LV is fine in t case now.
 
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I answered that question some where else on this forum recently. It does not matter IMO what fluid is in it, as long as fresh. The red amsoil (which i have in mine) was xl12 compliant. xl12 was proven to just be old mercon formula and the mercon v was not safe for t case (although many year trucks came with mercon v in the t case stock, lol) Ford said if you dont run xl12, it will break NOTHING ELSE, not mercon v etc even though it was put in originally. Now all of a sudden, lv is ok? This makes no sense, unless they changes lv formula.

Amsoil had xl12 spec meet listed under the red on their site, this is not stated on the blue (lv) so it makes me think no formula change was done to LV.

Just keep it changed every 30k or so. That being said I have a lot of blue amsoil in stock so i will be putting that in soon. I would not be afraid to run red again.
 
#125 ·
According to my friend, there was no change to the LV "formula". He states that according to what he was told in training, that it always would have been fine but they hadn't completed testing with it.
 
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@admin Missing a whole next page still and has reverted back to old title and section. This thread title was changed and it was also moved to build section. Please fix.

@Envious can you see the next page or not? There was transfer case information along with other information on there.
 
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@admin

I am permanently stuck on page 12. I just made a post @ you and envious and cant even see the post. It's been like this over a week now.
 
#130 ·
@WooBoost you have been heard and @admin fixed your thread for you. :)
Now get to it on posting some more amazing and informative goodies for us to read.
 
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#131 ·
@WooBoost you have been heard and fixed your thread for you. :)
Now get to it on posting some more amazing and informative goodies for us to read.
It's back! I can see everything. Guessed we should have followed the saying "if it aint broke, dont fix it" Elmore
 
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So back to oil we go.

Last sample i did was in fall of 2017, i went 7920 miles on Amsoil 5-30 and filter, oil checked out great on all reporting, including a 10.1 viscosity and 3.29 TBN. 5-30 SS starts at 10.2 viscosity.

This change now was 7260, viscosity 10.2 and TBN 5.35. This mileage includes mini trips, idling periods, winter weather, fall, rain, dragracing etc.

The oil life monitor in truck reads 10% when i get around 7500 miles, this is pretty accurate for me.

With my testing just showing 5.35 TBN and the rest of oil good, i bet i could have hit 10k if i really wanted to try. I am tempted to try but also not. Better to just change the oil. Maybe this time around ill go 8500 and re test, see what we are at, although this oil will be ran through summer. What do you think is harder on oil guys, winter or summer heat?

My point is, on good oil and properly maintained eco, you can run 7500 miles easy.
 
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Very nice UOA. Sounds like the 5w-30SS is doing you good! I just switched to Rotella T6 5w-40 and see how that does for me. I was using Pennzoil Platinum but saw how thin it is and wanted something thicker that I can get easily around town. I tried the SS and my truck did not like it. I will run this 5k and get a UOA then go from there.
 
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So I've had this scratch for over a year now. It is the one bad mark on the truck. Knowing what I know about paint, I did not think it could be fixed without doing the entire side, removing graphics etc. I even asked some shops.

I finally made a move to cover up and right when I did, I found a scratch "wizard" that has been fixing scratches for 30+ years. He does amazing work, to the point I would use him even being as OCD as I am. He has said he can even leave the graphic in place and still blend a patch with new clear and you'll never know. He showed me pictures of his work and explained to me what he did. It is legit.

Here is my current solution, what do you guys think? When it warms up I think I will ditch this look and have him fix the scratch area with his blending technique. My fix was to order factory Navigator Ecoboost badges and have the chrome trim wrapped in black. I then put clear bra on the paint/scratch and stuck the badge on the clear bra. It is not bad looking for what it is.
 

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#136 ·
Looks much better.
 
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#135 ·
I'll vote

Always appreciate a clever solution that spawns from outside of the box. So yeah, I like it. :)

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#138 ·
Question for you now...

I like how clean and subtle those navigator badges look, never seen them before. Very gentlemenlyish The badges on my doors are faded and look bad from close up. I've been thinking of just getting rid of them, but now I'm thinking of maybe replacing with the navigator badges. Can I get your opinions? I'd probably black the edges as you did.


 

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