[FanaticalKilla]

Lol called it

Its no fun playing in the shallow end! Off to the deep end!

Matt I love your enthusiasm! Keep it up!

 

[boostkingMatt]

Lol called it

I won’t be building a motor, too much money, but, CVF and me are working on a super super awesome project for my truck!

 

[FanaticalKilla]

Just watched a video and the engine will not have a oil level dipstick.

 

[Gord0]

Just watched a video and the engine will not have a oil level dipstick.

Saw that a couple weeks ago and forgot to mention it here. Strictly relying on electrical sensors. Dodge is great with electrical...🤣

 

[snakebitten]

18 year old Porsche doesn't have a dipstick.
I wish it did, of course. But obviously it's not a new idea.

 

[Gord0]

Looks like some impressive numbers for the standard 3.0. Appears they aren't overrating it like Toyota did. I'm guessing this will illicit a response from Ford.

 

[mass-hole]

Looks like the tuning has a little issue with boost surge down low. And instead of the throttle plate closing up smoothly and controlling boost its overreacting and tanking the torque

 

[Upshifter]

And forums suggest they won’t stop throwing codes. Usually for misfires but no shortage of other issues. And dealers are neither provided nor receiving much help.

 

[Gord0]

Looks like the tuning has a little issue with boost surge down low. And instead of the throttle plate closing up smoothly and controlling boost its overreacting and tanking the torque

Some sort of ugly going on there. Throttle plate, BOV, waste gates, fuel. There definitely looks like some tuning needs to be done.

Side note on the fast 0-60 times. In the testing I've seen done the truck had 3.92 rear gears. Wonder if the early magazine reviews got a special tuned version as well. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened. Definitely wouldn't put it past Dodge to do that when they're replacing the hemi with this.

 

[mass-hole]

Some sort of ugly going on there. Throttle plate, BOV, waste gates, fuel. There definitely looks like some tuning needs to be done.

Side note on the fast 0-60 times. In the testing I've seen done the truck had 3.92 rear gears. Wonder if the early magazine reviews got a special tuned version as well. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened. Definitely wouldn't put it past Dodge to do that when they're replacing the hemi with this.

The 8 speed transmission has a super deep 1st gear too. I think it 5:1 vs 4.71:1 for the ford 10 speed.

So between the 1st gear and the 3.92's, they probably do launch pretty hard in 4x4

 

[Gord0]

The 8 speed transmission has a super deep 1st gear too. I think it 5:1 vs 4.71:1 for the ford 10 speed.

So between the 1st gear and the 3.92's, they probably do launch pretty hard in 4x4

I guess I'll just need to get a mild AO tune for my 21 and not have to worry about the 3.0, or the HO

 

[boostkingMatt]

So TFL did a 0-60 test on ram hurricane and f150.
Horrible comparison, the f150 did like 7 seconds and the ram did like 6. Something. I laughed at it then got mad because my truck did 5.7 seconds completely stock in Denver as well. So just goes to show that Andre didn’t launch properly. It’s reflected in the 60’ times they both got.

 

[Gord0]

So TFL did a 0-60 test on ram hurricane and f150.
Horrible comparison, the f150 did like 7 seconds and the ram did like 6. Something. I laughed at it then got mad because my truck did 5.7 seconds completely stock in Denver as well. So just goes to show that Andre didn’t launch properly. It’s reflected in the 60’ times they both got.

Somehow motortrend almost always manages to get the fastest 0-60, 1/4 mile times. 5 seconds flat for the ram and 13.7 at 98mph in the quarter are very impressive numbers. Almost too impressive...

 

[boostkingMatt]

Looks like the tuning has a little issue with boost surge down low. And instead of the throttle plate closing up smoothly and controlling boost its overreacting and tanking the torque

Yeah, I’ve seen this exact thing with my 2.7 when I was on the dyno before. Torque shot up then dipped hard then back up. Should have been almost 550 ftlbs


Anyways, my comment on that video is, look at the wheel differences, the f150 had upgraded wheels and tires. Also, what fuel were they on? 93 or even e20 in the ford would have yielded almost 400 at the wheels and usually these 21+ 3.5s will put down about 500 ftlbs of torque on dynos from what ive seen if they are on good fuel and oem wheels and tires.

 

[boostkingMatt]

Somehow motortrend almost always manages to get the fastest 0-60, 1/4 mile times. 5 seconds flat for the ram and 13.7 at 98mph in the quarter are very impressive numbers. Almost too impressive...

That is a whole bunch of bull. Embellishment galore. Let’s race on the street and see. One guy I know at sea level got 5.2 seconds with his stock 2022 3.5L

 

[boostkingMatt]

Something the hurricane doesn’t have is upgraded turbo options right now, so all us ford guys are not scared in the slightest.

 

[havs54]

Looks like the tuning has a little issue with boost surge down low. And instead of the throttle plate closing up smoothly and controlling boost its overreacting and tanking the torque

If they're already topped out at 26 psi in this dyno then that's pretty pathetic. A 3.5 Tuned would absolutely destroy this thing.

Hilarious dodge dumped the TRX for this thing

I mean Gen 1 2.7s dyno better with just a tune and 93

 

[mass-hole]

So TFL did a 0-60 test on ram hurricane and f150.
Horrible comparison, the f150 did like 7 seconds and the ram did like 6. Something. I laughed at it then got mad because my truck did 5.7 seconds completely stock in Denver as well. So just goes to show that Andre didn’t launch properly. It’s reflected in the 60’ times they both got.

Andre's launch was atrocious.

When they tested the GMC Denali, Ford Powerboost and Ram Tungsten with the HO, the Powerboost was only a 10th or two slower than the HO 0-60 at sea level. That would have been 3.73's and 3.92's

Yeah, I’ve seen this exact thing with my 2.7 when I was on the dyno before. Torque shot up then dipped hard then back up. Should have been almost 550 ftlbs


Anyways, my comment on that video is, look at the wheel differences, the f150 had upgraded wheels and tires. Also, what fuel were they on? 93 or even e20 in the ford would have yielded almost 400 at the wheels and usually these 21+ 3.5s will put down about 500 ftlbs of torque on dynos from what ive seen if they are on good fuel and oem wheels and tires.

I asked this in the comments since they seemed like they were responding, but no one answered.

 

[mass-hole]

If they're already topped out at 26 psi in this dyno then that's pretty pathetic. A 3.5 Tuned would absolutely destroy this thing.

Hilarious dodge dumped the TRX for this thing

I mean Gen 1 2.7s dyno better with just a tune and 93

This is the SO which I think hits 22 psi. That makes sense considering its only a 3.0L.

I imagine the HO version would make ~450whp if this dyno is an indication.

 

[boostkingMatt]

Andre's launch was atrocious.

When they tested the GMC Denali, Ford Powerboost and Ram Tungsten with the HO, the Powerboost was only a 10th or two slower than the HO 0-60 at sea level. That would have been 3.73's and 3.92's



I asked this in the comments since they seemed like they were responding, but no one answered.

As did I.