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Take a read through here. Notice nothing is hidden, even mistakes! :)
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Man you are dying to know what's going on. I feel like you're more invested into the truck than me now. Luckily for me I don't get told what's going on either so we're all in the dark


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I am still running 87 tune due to be being stuck working at home. Also the drive to friend shop is a long drive. After I go there and do converter and HPFP (hopefully this time I get the line bent) I will switch over to 93 and start tuning for more boost with the additional fuel.

The GTs are working flawlessly though.
 
I am still running 87 tune due to be being stuck working at home. Also the drive to friend shop is a long drive. After I go there and do converter and HPFP (hopefully this time I get the line bent) I will switch over to 93 and start tuning for more boost with the additional fuel.

The GTs are working flawlessly though.
Wait you finally installed them?? When did this happen?
 
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@DNA Dan

So I posted in here how I got a converter because I think my rear main seal is leaking and it is somewhat "common" on the 3.5. Anyways. Last week I found browsing online that on the 3.5, it will look like a rear main seal leak but will actually be vacuum pump leak for 13+ coming from the head.

I already have new rear main seal, hardware etc. I researched the vacuum pump and found Ford sales the gasket separate from the pump. I decided after seeing the vacuum pump leak online, I would just order the gasket and replace with the rear main seal because the vacuum pump is on back of head between fire wall. If you have to fix, you need to use a mirror and it is really tight. I figured with the trans already out, it will be easy pesy. Anyways, I got the gasket and then last weekend used a mirror and light to look at the vacuum pump, Ill be damned, there is oil all on the bottom of it. So maybe my oil leak from a few pages back is only from the vacuum pump and not rear main seal? Anyways, we will find out and I am going to replace the rear main seal even if it isnt leaking while trans is out anyways I decided.

Part for the vacuum pump gasket is:

DL3Z-2A572-A

It says 15-17 online but my ford guy confirmed it will fit 13 and 14. I can't see a different gasket being made for 15+
Rear main (now stamped steel with seal in it is sold as a rear main seal retainer)

They fit 11-21 ecoboost and 3.7l and all variants all years of the same and the 2.7l and I think 3.0l


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Rear main (now stamped steel with seal in it is sold as a rear main seal retainer)

They fit 11-21 ecoboost and 3.7l and all variants all years of the same and the 2.7l and I think 3.0l


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Ya, i think i posted about that a few pages back. No separate rear main seal, it comes installed already in the steel. That is what i got from Ford. I read the steel has been since early on, like 2013. Early models had alum....something like that. I will see what mine is and if it is leaking when it goes under knife shortly.

I will also be venting valve covers to release crank pressure.
 
Ya, i think i posted about that a few pages back. No separate rear main seal, it comes installed already in the steel. That is what i got from Ford. I read the steel has been since early on, like 2013. Early models had alum....something like that. I will see what mine is and if it is leaking when it goes under knife shortly.

I will also be venting valve covers to release crank pressure.
Bad idea on valve covers vented to atmosphere.


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Bad idea on valve covers vented to atmosphere.


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If youre going to make a post like that, then explain your reason behind it
 
If youre going to make a post like that, then explain your reason behind it
Sure but not cause you asked me nicely. I mean, you can try it but I spent 6 months and have data. Anyway.

These crank cases aren’t like a 2JZ as an example which has enough area inside, less windage and can allow the positive pressure to exit the engine with -12 breathers on two cans with 2 breathers naturally.

The ecoboost v6 we open drain backs and have tried and done all we can to provide more area for this same theory. No good, they cannot bent themselves properly and as a BBC or a SBC would have aka vac pump to scavenge the pressure out,

these need to be scavenged or have pressure pulled out with vac.

We run -12 hose and the highest quality double catch can setup. We just run them almost like they were just online filters with all hooked up (example) like filtered stock lines and pcv system but we do pull from both turbo intake pipes for when in boost.

We use the highest end cans with entrainment media that’s allowing any and all crap to be caught and not any water really and when you are at idle idle the very high vacuum produced via intake manifold is the best place if you can catch what your trying to stop, and scavenges the crankcase incredible. In fact we don’t even mount our cans in front or in bay where they can be seen. This produces water which is why guys catch a ton.

We run -12 to each can, and they sit low behind the engine and cans need to be warm to not condense wasting time emptying the water you catch.

Most cans are seeing a ton of cold air condensing to water due to their location and grille mounted cans, and it’s giving illusions of amazing quality products when it’s 90% water from grille whacked all day with cold air. Especially when you see pics below, nothing, no media! 70 miles I emptied a customers can 1/8 a cup all water. Waste.

Driver side same thing, but to both turbo intakes


Just did a check of a mega can.

Example for this one was the upr mega can gen1 catch can, clean side separator and whatever else it does there is more hoses than hp.

Zero entrainment media was found as you can see below, nothing for mist to be caught in.

we use one of two brands and have no crankcase pressure and nothing on intake valves and we always see neg case pressure mostly except for the usual (to me 40 psi pull. Other than that, almost always in vac in case.

These are so bad in fact Dailey engineering dry dumps with an added scavenge section and standard size dry sump sections still show us about 8 psi positive crankcase pressure which is insane and should be reading inches of mercury all the time or vacuum.

Here is the mega can , the gross piece that is pukish colored smokers teeth is hollow so nothing being caught or air slowing down. Air rips through these cans at Mach 1 lol.



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Even custom cans we have made are split into two cans but look like one.

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Did you set up a sensor to see crank pressure for your testing? I am not interested now in just stopping gunk, I am interested in revealing crank pressure. Best choice would be a dry sump, lol.

If you still have a connection to the turbo tube, how is that releasing crank pressure because it is a closed system still at that point?
 
Did you set up a sensor to see crank pressure for your testing? I am not interested now in just stopping gunk, I am interested in revealing crank pressure. Best choice would be a dry sump, lol.

If you still have a connection to the turbo tube, how is that releasing crank pressure because it is a closed system still at that point?
They are sealed systems with check valves that are using a ceramic ball to block when system changes.

At idle it’s pulled with intake and at boost it’s pulled by both turbos

Each can used separate sides. Doesn’t matter it’s sealed


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After the talk of spark plugs, I saw NAPA was doing 25% sale if you were AAA memeber. Used a family member number and picked up 12 NGK 6510. These are heat range 7, so one colder than stock, which is 6. Going to be installing these instead of stock and see what happens with more boost.
 
Have had 6510's in my 2.7 for a year now, 10000 miles. Idles and runs great! I did set my gaps a bit tighter at .026 with the expectation they would soon widen to .028 factory specifications with heat buildup, after some hard driving. I normally would have pulled a plug to check it so far but it runs so good I'm reluctant to do that. KM
 
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Lol. I know what you mean.

I had BIG plans that were part of the intent from the very beginning, when I purchased the truck 2.5 years ago.

And I DID do everything that I planned about addressing all the oem shortcomings of my imaginary "dream truck"......the ONE truck I would keep, although I might have other trucks that would-could come and go.

But I wasn't expecting the motor to be so dang perfect. And I've always treated it like a temporary lump that was GONE at the first sign of weakness or irritation.

Here I sit 31,000 miles later and like you mentioned, it runs so fantastic that I don't want to touch it!

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Lol. I know what you mean.

I had BIG plans that were part of the intent from the very beginning, when I purchased the truck 2.5 years ago.

And I DID do everything that I planned about addressing all the oem shortcomings of my imaginary "dream truck"......the ONE truck I would keep, although I might have other trucks that would-could come and go.

But I wasn't expecting the motor to be so dang perfect. And I've always treated it like a temporary lump that was GONE at the first sign of weakness or irritation.

Here I sit 31,000 miles later and like you mentioned, it runs so fantastic that I don't want to touch it!

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How I feel about my gen 1 3.5 Eco with 76k miles.
 
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