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-Parts = Ford Turbo kit, SPD ported exhaust adapters and CR manifolds. STOCK EXHAUST.
-Manifolds and heat shield that attach to turbos, 2000 degree ceracoat
-All new gaskets are included with Ford kit, I additionally purchased 2 block jiffy tite fittings and manifold to block gaskets
-Day started with me getting up at 530, packing truck, leaving at 615 and arriving at 8am at friends shop with lift.
I worked by myself from 8 to 10 am, taking out fender liners, unhooking turbo plastic pipes while waiting for engine to cool down
-10 am started work, pulled all intercooler and intake pipes out completely from truck.
-Drained coolant(very easy, 14 is the last year with pet cock on passenger side and it has nipple. Hooked up plastic tube to drain directly into container)
-Began tearing turbo apart, everything was smooth.
-All exhaust studs came out fine, zero issues. I used stock steel ones and not the 5.4 stainless ones btw. For sale.
-The studs that broke, one on each side, were the 3 holding the turbo to the manifold. One broke each side. We weren’t afraid to take a pipe on the wrench and snap the bolts if it happened because we were replacing. The heads snapped off leaving a lot of stud exposed so it would "easier" to remove broken if this happens to you
-Lube o rings in jiffy tite and end of hard lines on coolant etc so it goes in smooth. I just used some lithium grease that was around the shop and some 10-40 oil
-I should also mention, the Ford kit comes with new bolts and o ring for the oil drain tube at the block, we did not replace these and I have never seen anyone online do these.
-The manifold gaskets and turbo to exhaust adapter gasket-we sprayed a copper tack on these before hand to help seal.
-As I posted, I bought stainless 5.4 3v (with copper coating?) manifold studs. I ultimately ended up not using these due to stock ones coming out so easy and these stock ones not having corrosion issues typically. I figured lets stick with what it is
-We also followed proper pattern to tighten manifold down, but did not use the mentioned torque spec. We used a 1/4 wrench and tighten down pretty tight. As mentioned before, getting socket on nut with CR manifolds is a challenge, need to grind down for thin wall or hit the socket on and youll be fine. THe CR should really help with the opened port. I noticed on stock you could see part of black circle where it was hitting the metal and not flowing directly into opening.
-The gasket that goes between turbo and manifold I got from Ford with the turbo kit, did not have that side prongs like stock and everyone I have seen on line that grip onto metal so you don't have to hold the gasket while installing. It was weird but they still work fine.
PROBLEMS
-Even though I purchased jiffy-tite fitting for the block, we did not replace upfront, only if issue we decided. This was a mistake. Order these and replace when turbos are out.
-After hooking everything up, except downpipe, we went to fill the coolant by using vacuum. This puts cap on expansion tank, pulls vacuum with air hooked up then fills system. With this, no burping is needed because all air is out of system. Upon turning air on, we immediately heard a hissing noise. It was determined the hissing was coming from passenger side jiffy tite fitting in the block. In order to get to this, we had to pull turbo back off (hoping gasket is ok) and lines. That fitting is behind the ac compressor. To remove this, we had to remove belt and remove stretch belt (hassle, hand turn crank while pulling/wedging belt), then blindly taking bolts off ac compressor.
-Pull the bracket hard line and then fitting, looking at hard line from bracket, the raised groove edge was not even in the jiffy tite fitting from the factory? We can tell because there is a wear line through the black paint of the hard line and it was way in front of the raised groove edge (sorry no pics). This means the 3 prongs on the jiffy tite was not seated holding the line in, as the 3 grooves are supposed to lock around this edge, the only thing holding this into the fitting was the bracket bolted down pushing it in. I don't know if this is normal? We thought it wasn't so we bent the bracket so the groove would seat all the way into the jiffy-tite 3 prongs.
-Last part to do, is the coolant hard line at top of turbo. It would not seat back into the jiffy-tite although we got it so smoothly the first time. We fucked around with this for at least 1.5 hrs. Trying to gently bend hard line while holding back side so it would not move the back of head fitting around, nothing. Pulled the clip out of fitting, DON’T DO THIS, messed it up could not get it. Pulled fitting out of turbo, tried to bend the clip and would not work. So we pulled old fitting out of stock turbo and re-used, and pushed the line in and it clipped in like instantly. Will watch this since it has 50k on it already PRO TIP, HAVE A EXTENDED MINI MIRROR TO LOOK AT BACK FITTING BEHIND TURBO AND THE BACK OF THE TOP FITTING TO ENSURE ALL 3 PRONGS SEAT AROUND/ABOVE GROOVE OF HARD LINE. You can have 2 prongs seated not a third, thinking they are all and fitting can leak.
-Next, we did not use vacuum for coolant, lol, just poured coolant in expansion tank used orange concentrate and distilled water from store. It immediately started having a drip out of driver block coolant fitting (that we didn’t replace). This thing is buried with everything hooked back up, but not as bad as passenger behind a/c compressor. By this time it was late and I still had to drive 2 hours home. We took a long ass screw driver and tapped the bracket with hammer to push the hard line at bracket into the block more, the leak stopped. AT this point we said send it and I said lets put some heat in it and it should hopefully seal. Hooked everything back up, started it, no leaks. Burped system with heat on high, I pulled over along drive to top off etc.
-I changed oil before we started in case an coolant or anything else got in.
-I did the hold the gas pedal down and crank over 4 times. On the fourth time, I saw oil pressure on the gauge. Then started. Let starter have a cool down/break between each cranking. BTW we pulled starter on passenger side for turbo install
-At this point it was 7pm. I left around 8pm. I got home about 945. Long ass day standing up all day. I would guess we worked about 10 hrs and we took a break from lunch. Without the passenger side issue at 1.5 hour, we would have been done a lot earlier.
-I continued to check for leaks these past 3 days, have not seen anything. Expansion tank is holding coolant at steady level. If anything leaks now, it will be passenger side top jiffy-tite because we reused old fitting and it already had 50k miles or the driver block as i mentioned. Good news, at least the top fitting at turbo does not require turbo removal.
MY BIGGEST TIPS
-Be incredible careful when pulling turbo out because the hard line is there. If you hit this/pulls on it, it can damage jiffy tite fitting on the back of head. IF that thing leaks, it will be a * to get to.
-Be incredible careful and take time wiggling turbo off the hard line in the back (between turbo and block) If this moves around, it can damage block fitting. The Ford kit does not come with these fitting and requires to order extra.
- With mine initial leaking, maybe heat would have sealed it, maybe it would not have? I would suggest replacing these in the block with turbos out on driver and passenger side and checking the bracket, how far it seats. As mentioned, you have to remove a/c compressor to do passenger, driver nothing like this is required.

I will continued to check for leaks, hopefully there are none. It drove home fine 2 hours and has been fine to work.

I have loaded "base tune" from my man @Boostking and currently data logging. Can instantly tell it pulls hardder up top. The data log shows the boost just hold dead straight to redline.

I will sell the stainless manifold studs if anyone wants them.

I believe I posted everything, issued and suggestions. If I did something wrong, DON’T TELL ME, it will drive me insane. As I mentioned, spent about 10 hrs with 2 people working together/on each side and me doing random **** too. Yes I paid money for this. It is a DD and I had to get it done in one day. If you are to do this on your own and on jack stands, it will take MUCH LONGER just due to jackstands alone and your back will be broken. I would say it will take you 2 days if you are a highly skilled mechanic. If you are an average guy, it will take longer. Have an extra car or be willing to have wife drive you to work.

Finally, I did not re-read all this post in detail. If there is stuff that makes no sense, spelling error, etc deal with it. Ask me any questions you may have. I also did not take pictures, typical me. I get into the work and always forget. O well.

It should also be known, this Ford kit, has FORD tags on the turbo housing. It was previously stated the only difference between stock and these turbos, are stock say Ford and these "GT" say Borg Warner. This may be the case if you order from another vender, but the Ford kit specifically says Ford. So if you're worried about warranty work, get this kit. This makes sense too if the 2017 Raptor has these same turbos stock.

Big thanks to @Boostking and @Blown F-150 . They know all they did, no need to post on here.

@TX-Ripper hold tight, what you said cannot be done has been done, finally! Dyno numbers coming soon, along with 1/4 mile times.
Your time estimate is really making me think twice about pulling the trigger, lol.
 
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Well, in 6 years of ownership, I have my first problems.
1) the vacuum pump oil leak, this can happen with high milesage but also I am running more boost, so whos to say the crank case/internal pressure didn't cause this gasket to fail.
2) Last Saturday my HVAC fan went nuts
3) previously I had the door lock on driver side sticking. I put a little wd40 on it and it has never had a problem since. So I do not count that as an issue.

For 6 years, that aint bad. I have had a tune almost the entire time. Never one single misfire. Catch can and intercooler as I said since day one...

So, last saturday I was out doing some errands and had the ac on. When I got home, i turned it off. Came back to truck a few hours later and the fan started blowing almost as high as it could (from the sound). This is with the HVAC system completely shut off, pretty odd right?. Turning it on, did nothing. Adjusting the knob did nothing. The AC button would toggle the ac on and off still. The setting between vent and foot would still toggle. So i knew nothing was wrong there. This issue gave no warning signs at all.

Did some google searches and apparently this is a common problem, very quick to find. The blower control module fails. There is no resistor in it, so it should not fail, it is "solid state" but it commonly fails. Lucky for us, this thing is right behind the glove box. I confirmed this was this issue by simply unplugging the plug and the fan instantly shut off. I ordered the motorcraft part and replaced yesterday, fan works as normal now.

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I also found out a month ago changing my oil, if i jack up the truck at just the right height, the oil filter draining will go straight through the square hole to the ground instead of all over the top of the skid plate, FYI.

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I also found out a month ago changing my oil, if i jack up the truck at just the right height, the oil filter draining will go straight through the square hole to the ground instead of all over the top of the skid plate, FYI.

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Nose up?
We need geometry! Lol

Degrees?

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Another thing I did not mention, but another thread reminded me. I am ditching SCT, I have a HP Tuners MPVI2 sitting in front of me. Another cost I did not want, but let's see what happens. I got fed up messing with SCT for now.

If everything works out, I will be selling x4....along with my other parts.
 
Another thing I did not mention, but another thread reminded me. I am ditching SCT, I have a HP Tuners MPVI2 sitting in front of me. Another cost I did not want, but let's see what happens. I got fed up messing with SCT for now.

If everything works out, I will be selling x4....along with my other parts.
Im right there with ya, brother. About to make the switch myself
 
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Nose up?
We need geometry! Lol

Degrees?

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The thing was, the filter made no mess, but before that I was draining the pan into milk jug via hose and moto valve.....I look down and oil is everywhere. The milk jug had a crack on the bottom. Sigh.
 
Another thing I did not mention, but another thread reminded me. I am ditching SCT, I have a HP Tuners MPVI2 sitting in front of me. Another cost I did not want, but let's see what happens. I got fed up messing with SCT for now.

If everything works out, I will be selling x4....along with my other parts.
Would an hp tuners tune be compatible with an set device like a bdx or x4?

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Changed plugs today to NGK 6510, heat range is 7, which is 1 colder than stock.

These plugs had 20k miles, tip looks great, running fine.

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Suggest ditching NGK. They open up since their around 40 thou to start and why all the oil at end of threads


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Suggest ditching NGK. They open up since their around 40 thou to start and why all the oil at end of threads


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The one in the pic is factory sp534. I think it had around 20k. Id have to look at notes.

You're right on the 6510 though, the gap was huge out of the box. I imagine all are. Didn't measure it but put them down to .26.
 
The one in the pic is factory sp534. I think it had around 20k. Id have to look at notes.

You're right on the 6510 though, the gap was huge out of the box. I imagine all are. Didn't measure it but put them down to .26.
What’s with the oil in the cylinder? The last threads opposite the strap is from my eyes wet oil which is a sign rings are not doing well. Leak down number 1 cylinder and see how it is then go from there


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I still have the plugs. I just pulled them out, that pic is just a bad angle I guess. It is just carbon/dirt but does look particularly bad there, nothing wet on the plug when removing. I am not worried about it.
 
@WooBoost I tried those very same NGK's when I did my first plug change back in 2015. I always run 0.025" gap. I didn't find any real differences from the stock plugs. They worked fine.

About the only difference I can recall, the engine with the OEM plugs seemed to run a bit smoother at idle. It wasn't very noticeable. I also change my plugs every 2nd year, which is about 20,000 miles for me.
 
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@WooBoost I tried those very same NGK's when I did my first plug change back in 2015. I always run 0.025" gap. I didn't find any real differences from the stock plugs. They worked fine.

About the only difference I can recall, the engine with the OEM plugs seemed to run a bit smoother at idle. It wasn't very noticeable. I also change my plugs every 2nd year, which is about 20,000 miles for me.
The 2.7 uses heat range 7 stock, initially, so I gave them a try. I figure with more boost and fuel, it'll help. We will see. If it is not burning well, I will go back to stock heat range 6.

My friend just made 1100 hp on his twin turbo mustang on the same plug, so they can handle it!
 
The 2.7 uses heat range 7 stock, initially, so I gave them a try. I figure with more boost and fuel, it'll help. We will see. If it is not burning well, I will go back to stock heat range 6.

My friend just made 1100 hp on his twin turbo mustang on the same plug, so they can handle it!
Once I get my LPFP modified and installed so I can burn E85 (or add my XDI-35 if it doesn't); plus adding my GTs, I am going to retry NGKs again. There is supposedly a "new metal" (Ruthenium HX) available from NGK. I haven't checked if this is available for our engines. But if so, I would like to give them a try.


Stock replacement in Ruthenium = LTR6BHX

One step colder = LTR7BHX. There is no LTR8BHX.

FYI, I decided to try a set myself. Stock heat range though (for now).
 
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1. Installed new fullrace catch can, with new intake tube and filter lid. Will be selling OG RX can.
2. Sprayed quick connect transmission fittings at front of truck with fluid film. Mine had oxidation on them. These can break with enough rust. I also coated the hard lines.
3. Coated axle and leaf springs with black tints woolwax (same as fluid film) just with black tint.
4. Pulled turbosmart BOV apart to clean. It was spotless. Does not need to be done once per year like suggested IMO. I will go longer now that I know. Use their lube only.

Fullrace can. Built well, good welds. I am running breather testing now. I could not smell any fuel/oil filter driving with recirc off. At idle, if you get outside, you can smell it. If I stay with this option, i might add another breather to can.
1.The benefits of this is ZERO oil back into the engine and crank pressure relief. If i smell vapor, I will run line back to intake tube.
2. the PCV you see is black, my stock was brown. I gutted this one completely, including O ring inside.

Suggestions for @full-race geoff /people considering this.
1. It looks like all the spark plugs can come out with this installed, that is good.
2. MAP sensor obviously cannot.
3. The hose to PCV puts strain on the PCV. It visabily is pulling it toward cowl due to short length. I don't think the PCV will break but it is yanking on it. Hoepfully nothing happens long term to PCV/valve cover
4. Provide more hose. It is hard to guesstimate how much to cut. I need to get some more. I suggest making precut hoses that will be enough to fit with factory quick connects and then if the end user wants to use quick connects, they can slightly trim hose for that length.
5. Made in USA. High quality materials. Welds are great, even inside of it.
6. I would like more support on the can vs the small two screw at cowl. I am thinking of something to stuff under the can between it and intake. I am think maybe a piece of hose, just need a way t secure it. I am thinking these two screws will strip with a few removals and would need to come up with a new hole somehow. Any suggestions what to use?

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Just a thought, but wouldn’t you want the can hooked up to the turbo inlet so that it will provide vacuum under boost? As it stands it seems like it will only have atmospheric pressure on the crankcase.
 
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