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Thanks guys, just trying to help out. What I am doing and will continue to do for now, is change in spring and change in fall with filter unless the numbers get worse. In both cases of the analysis, it shows I could go longer on the same oil reading the numbers. I don't want to get caught in a situation where I have to change oil in the middle of winter, so I change it spring/fall.

I am currently trying to find some information on the cold start fast cat fire loop. I am wondering if this is the main cause of the fuel getting into the oil as people have mentioned the PCM dumps excess fuel to accomplish that task. That feature, combined with 2-3 cold starts per day and very short trips = a lot of damn fuel in my oil.

As far as the TSB goes 15-003, my build would be a brown PCV/oil change/PCM flash. I already the PCV factory, I don't see that TSB doing anything to help.
 
Discussion starter · #62 · (Edited)
Some updates - truck still running great, never thrown a wrench. Going to be hitting 10k soon. Going to be changing oil in next couple weeks, I don't think my "mod" helped dilution, dip stick still smells like fuel. Will discuss this more when I get analysis back.

Installed traction bars to prevent axle wrap and axle bounce. I think my pinion angle is off though from dropping the rear, I am going to have it checked.

My truck is also flagged for the master cylinder recall. 2013/14 guys check your vin.

I also think I have "warped rotors" that everyone talks about. I am convinced it is the pads and not the rotors. I tried to heat cycle the brakes when I first bought it to pad the rotors but I must not have done it correctly. I am going to do some higher MPH heavy foot decels to see if it helps by getting brakes really hot, but it is probably not fixable now. Maybe I will see if dealer will replace pads and rotors with the master cylinder.
 
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Changed oil with 2400miles on oil it has been 7months on this oil, 219 days to be exact. Still looks like fuel dilution. Will send out report.

First time using the Futmoto valve....I did not see how far it sprays oil out, anyone know? I hooked up the hose and drained that way. I didn't get that much oil out as should. Someone said they were having problems not draining with valve....so I pulled valve out to see how much more oil was in and...none. It barely dripped anymore out. Because of this, I decided to reinstall the valve, I was prepared to put stock bolt back in at the time.

I think I am using oil, or actually catching it in catch can because I definitively did not get enough oil out of system. Last time I checked dipstick, it measure ok though. It always does. Keep in mind this system holds 6 quarts WITH filter and the filter holds about 1/2 quart so you won't drain 6 quarts.

I also pulled the MAP sensor on the middle of the manifold(one screw, 7mm) and cleaned it with CRC MAF cleaner. I did not do the sensor by the air filter. I have seen some images on the net of Eco owners with this MAP sensor visibly dirty to the eye and covered in oil. Mine was almost mint, the cleaning (in which I placed paper towel under sensor and sprayed at it on the front side the way it is oriented in manifold) resulted in a VERY SLIGHT brown on paper towel at best. Almost not noticeable. This is after 10,000 miles. The catch can in working.
 
Discussion starter · #64 · (Edited)
Oil analysis back. This was 2404 miles and 219 days, about 7 months. This oil was also my winter oil.

Good news! Dilution is down! 2.8%! Truck is a few hundred miles away from 10,000.

So why is dilution down? It could be my cold start "mod" or it could be the miles on the truck are breaking in the engine more and rings are sealing better? Maybe both?

The "mod" I did you ask? The factory cold start was removed. If you have notice, when you start the truck and it has not been driven a while, it goes into a cold start thing. The turbos spool loudly and the BOV is opened. Then after the process happens, about 30 seconds, you hear the BOV close. It is believed during this time the truck is spraying a lot of extra fuel. Basically, the mod has prevented it from doing this and starts like it "normally" does when the engine is hot. Park/neutral idle was simultaneously bumped up to 850rpm. Drive idle is about 650, slightly above stock. This part was to help prevent the wild shake/vibrations we Eco owners get. It has helped a lot.

SO either this "mod" or the fact the engine is getting broken in more, or both(?) have let me see less fuel dilution. I am going to keep it as is, since it has shown promising results.

Based on viscosity and TBN, I could have ran this oil A LOT longer. The oil life monitor was reading 35% at time of change. Both previous changes, the monitor has read 33% when I changed it. Most will say this thing is not good measurement, but in my case, it has been fairly accurate. I wanted to change around 30% to make sure I was safe, especially since oil smelled so bad of fuel, I wanted to make sure viscosity is still there. Even this change, the oil still smelled of fuel, I figured I was in for another 5+ % dilution. Amsoil is doing well protecting the engine. I am going to run this oil change LONGER. I might run this into next year (through this fall/winter and into next spring) and see how it turns out.

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Discussion starter · #65 ·
I never pay attention to boost, but I noticed at 70mph which is 2000rpm (technically 67 is exactly 2000 rpm) I am IN VACUUM. Gauge read well below 100kpa(which is 0psi/atmosphere). I would have never guessed that to be true. At anytime if you apply any kind of gas or come to any sort of hill, it will go into boost however. This is probably why i saw 22+mpg last year on my little trip.
 
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Last night on the interstate my hood unlatched going about 70! About **** my pants! Thankful it did not come all the way unhooked and blow back and smash my windshield out.

No idea how or why it did that.
 
Mine did that once when a tractor trailer passed. I assumed I had not shut it properly. Now that I see it happened to you, it's slightly more disconcerting.

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Last night on the interstate my hood unlatched going about 70! About **** my pants! Thankful it did not come all the way unhooked and blow back and smash my windshield out.

No idea how or why it did that.
Can you see your hood moving up and down going down the road? Mine moves up and down a little bit and so did my 06 f350. You got me a little worried now!

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Discussion starter · #69 ·
See post #63 about cleaning map sensor.

Yesterday I pulled the one that is in from of the throttle body. I used a T-20 bit I think. I don't know why Ford decided to use Torx here and use two nuts? Excessive I think.

Anyways I pulled it out and did the same as map sensor last year, put a paper towel under it and sprayed it in direction air hits it. With the map sensor in manifold, I got a very light brown tint on paper towel(oil), this sensor in front of TB (which looks identical to one on manifold) had ZERO contamination, the paper towel was spotless after spraying it. Not sure how this one has no contamination on it but in the manifold it did.


I also pulled my Stifflers traction bars and greased the hell out of the bolts, brackets and spacers. Must less noise now, thank god.
 
I just reread this thread, most of it. Woo, seems to me you might be a bit too concerned. Probably most of us on these forums are like that, doing everything we can for our trucks. Me? I just ordered a high dollar catch can for my '15. Was just under the hood on Halloween night trying to see how to connect it when it arrives. Oh me, we're hopeless. Maybe we just need to do like all these old boys who do the Two Step method: 1. Buy truck 2. Drive truck With normal maintenance of course. Thousands of Ecoboost owners are happily using that method for 100,000, 200,000 miles. Us? Naw, we gotta go worrying, modding, just messing all around with them. We canno' help it.
 
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I know people like to complain about the A/C on these trucks, but the Heater will melt your damn face off. The highest i turn it is to about 1/4 way and I have to turn it off after a few minutes and fan is on low too.
 
I know people like to complain about the A/C on these trucks, but the Heater will melt your damn face off. The highest i turn it is to about 1/4 way and I have to turn it off after a few minutes and fan is on low too.
My a/c works fine in the searing Texas heat. It might take a few minutes to cool the truck off, but if given enough time it will freeze me out.

As for the heat....yes, it will melt your face off....QUICKLY. I normally set mine on defrost/floor, and on low, to keep from cooking my eye sockets.
 
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So we are having a cold spell was at 63 this morning and I used my heated seats "funny" they will burn some balls real darn quick. Immediately turn off and roll down windows.
 
So we are having a cold spell was at 63 this morning and I used my heated seats "funny" they will burn some balls real darn quick. Immediately turn off and roll down windows.
And put on some dang underwear and pants if you're scorching the nads. ;)
 
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I have stated the past XXX minute screen frequently shows the bars about 25-30mpg cruising. I reset the average mpg trip recorder the other morning upon merging onto the interstate. It read 24MPG the whole time. Idling for 2 minutes dropped it to 22, since it is reading 0 mpg then. This is why I don't pay too much attention to the average screen. This is on 87 octane. Intercooler, catch can, full weight+some 4x4 tremor, stock 20s/tires/410s.
 
+1 on that. The longer it runs, the more accurate it is.

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Discussion starter · #79 ·
My opinion is, it is not accurate because idling uses a lot less fuel than driving, but since idling tells the computer 0MPG, it will drop the avg readout significantly.



I am almost at 5000miles on this oil, reading 20% life left I think. Going to keep on trucking for a while before changing it. Amsoil just released brand new API diesel oil, including 5-30. I think I am going to try it over the "gas" 5-30 SS that I show tests on in this thread.
 
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I should also mention I had the brake booster recall done. I asked them to replace front rotors and pads due to vibration under braking coming off highway speeds. They said rotors are warranty only during first year typically, but since I had low miles they would look at it. They ended up machining the front rotors because they were within a certain spec/thickness according to Ford, so they could not replace, but the rear rotors they replaced from being out of spec. They did not replace any pads. I would have liked the pads replaced, see stoptech article how they say rotors are not the problem(warp) it is the pads from improper bed. It also makes no sense how my rear rotors could be worn down enough to replace, the rear brakes should not be used hardly at all. Maybe the booster issue cause the rears to be used more, idk.

The recall, the pedal was a bit soft at first, I heated the brakes a bit then did a hard stop. The pedal got better. I am no longer feeling vibration under braking currently, so we shall see if it lasts....
 
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